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Baron Von Zeppelin
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12-25-2024, 05:23 PM
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The Bud Meadows Judge is going to be at Kiss...
The Bud Meadows Judge is going to be at Kiss Mecum.
And another one almost identical to it also.
A strong gathering of Pontiacs coming to Kissimmee this January
...
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12-14-2024, 01:12 PM
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The Judge is no longer on consignment at RK...
The Judge is no longer on consignment at RK Motors.
And not listed in the SOLD section.
Probably heading to one of the big house auctions in January.
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12-14-2024, 01:03 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Bud Meadows Pontiac dealer has known history as a...
Bud Meadows Pontiac dealer has known history as a racing roots / performance dealer on west coast
The 3rd IV Judge went to his other dealership in Portland Oregon.
Those 3 cars pre-date all...
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11-05-2024, 09:58 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
No We aren't sure it's a Judge yet. Too many...
No
We aren't sure it's a Judge yet.
Too many unknowns.
We do know Fremont was a Chevy plant. So this could even be an Oldsmobile.
I wouldn't declare anything until getting documentation from Ford.
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11-05-2024, 07:54 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Yes that is Richard Sargent's car. Looks like...
Yes that is Richard Sargent's car.
Looks like it beat the lower VIN car to the finish line by the Invoice Number !
Great that you could share that John.
Richard = 524797 -- VIN z117774
Bud ====...
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11-05-2024, 06:46 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Someone will have to check existing files to see...
Someone will have to check existing files to see where that invoice number falls in line with Fremont GTO examples in that date range. To make the best stab at what that invoice number is.
All my...
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11-05-2024, 06:42 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
The first Judges were built in January. They...
The first Judges were built in January.
They were all Ram Air 3 - and built to "pattern specs".
This is "the" or at least "one of the" first known Ram Air 4 Judges ever built.
Different caliber...
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11-05-2024, 02:31 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Car is becoming really interesting. Most likely...
Car is becoming really interesting.
Most likely is appearing to be the 1st Ram IV Judge
The VIN's are assigned in order of when they were approved and scheduled for build.
It doesn't guarantee...
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11-05-2024, 05:21 AM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
The Bud Meadows and Pontiac Plaza both have lower...
The Bud Meadows and Pontiac Plaza both have lower VIN's than Richards car from Dick Marson.
But all were invoiced (and most likely built) on the same day.
Bud car is the lowest VIN
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11-05-2024, 04:50 AM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Just discovered , It appears Bud Meadows also...
Just discovered ,
It appears Bud Meadows also owned that Pontiac dealership in Portland Oregon.
Where the 3rd car went.
This is in reference to a 67 Catalina car :
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11-05-2024, 04:24 AM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
It is documented (via PHS) on the 69 Judge...
It is documented (via PHS) on the 69 Judge Registry . com
Invoiced the same day as Richards Ram4 car from Dick Marson in Yakima WA
And another Ram4 that went to Pontiac Plaza in Portland Oregon on...
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11-05-2024, 04:06 AM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
No it is not his dealer race car. But...
No it is not his dealer race car.
But he owned 1 or 2 others , he may know something about this car from Bud Meadows in Washington.
I just can't place it without access to my files..
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11-04-2024, 10:42 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
It seems fairly priced - especially for RK. But...
It seems fairly priced - especially for RK.
But definitely do full diligence.
I'm about 1.5 hours from the car , if you need an evaluation service on it.
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11-04-2024, 10:39 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
The carb is def restamped. I'm not sure it is...
The carb is def restamped.
I'm not sure it is really known how many 4.33 cars were built.
That may not be a real factoid , can't remember reading that on Fred's sheets.
Fred Simmonds provided all...
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11-04-2024, 10:34 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
I think now, Cena's car was Hideaways and...
I think now, Cena's car was Hideaways and Cornering Lamps.
Send a message to member Johnta1 ,,,, and see if he has that VIN / PHS on file from previous time in the past.
Also check the 69 judge...
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11-04-2024, 05:21 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
Richards car was from Dick Marson Pontiac in...
Richards car was from Dick Marson Pontiac in Washington.
Radio "delete" without Hideaways.
So it's not that one.
But the Bud Meadows Pontiac connection is ringing bells all inside my head....
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11-04-2024, 04:47 PM
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Baron Von Zeppelin
I can't access my files - still. Is this Richard...
I can't access my files - still. Is this Richard Sergants (py member) car ?
His was the earliest known production IV Judge , and I think this is that car.
Was a stock class racer - dealer backed...
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