<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve Barcak:
Hey Rob,
There seems to be plenty of holes in your list. It seems you have forgot many of the guys who ran Pontiac power in the past except for Arnie Beswick.
Since you are doing an "all time" thing as opposed to something current. Here are many that you have left out.
* How about that Vega flop that was Pontiac powered by Raymond Walker? It was featured in Super Stock in the mid to late 70s. The article claimed it to be a 200 mph car. I don't remember Ets for it.
* What about Jerry Stienbrick? Didn't he run 8's (maybe 7s?) in the 80s on that parts cleaner stuff (gas)?
* What about Don and Roy Gay? They were running in the 7s with 421 power by 1967 (Firebird flopper OCIR manufactures meet) and they ran Pontiac power through 1968 at least and I think some in '69 before switching over to a 426. I am sure they had 2 or 3 cars that would make this list including the '66 GTO, '67 Bird and '69 GTO.
* What about Eddie Hills 202 pass at Hobbs, Nm on May 6, 1962 with his Pontiac twin (OK I see you mentioned it but, apparantely you are unsure)? Not to mention that fact he later ran single engine Pontiacs later on Nitro and into about '65. He had to run well into the 7s by that time. He could have had 1-3 cars that should be on your list.
* What about that Chapman Automotive V powered injected nitro burning '69 Judge flopper? I think it ran very low 8s.
* What about Beswicks '69 Super Judge flopper? I am sure in ran mid to low sevens. Arnie has to have at least 2 additional cars that are not on yor list ('69 Super Judge and '68 GTO both were floppers).
*Another possibility is the Royal sponsored injected V powered niitro burning Trans Am flopper (unsure of times).
* How about Jess Tyree? He ran blown 421 nitro floppers into 1968. He has to have some 7 second time slips.
That is 6-10 or so more that have been over looked. Many on your "all time list" will get bumped way down after you include everybody. I am curious as to why you have excluded these cars? If anyone thinks they will bethe top 10 or 15 on carbs and gas n/a forget it now and forever.
Am I the only one who knows of these Pontiacs?
there has to be more too.
Also, I have documention that Arnie ran the 6.94. He told me he did and i got it in writing with the picture of the car. It is his signature. If he didn't do it, he is a liar. who is to question? on the other hand, it does seems a bit fast for the day but, it is possible he could have done that and I accept him at his word.
Steve
http://www.pontiacheaven.org <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Steve's right, alot got left off, probably because Arnie is still in the forefront of many minds while the others aren't.
Wow! I thought I was the only Pontiac person on this board that knew about Raymond Walker and his Pontiac powered "Sunshine" Vega funny car from the mid-70's.
In the last year I personally tried to get in touch with Raymond Walker. I spoke with one of his former crew members, Robert Flitsch, and he said he hadn't seen or heard from him in at least 20 years. Raymond was an Army drill instructor stationed out of Fort Knox and was one of the many "match racers" from that era, never running for a living like most others were. The car was mostly set up as a BB/FC (blown alcohol), but occasionaly they tipped the can for certain match races. I tried to get more info from him as to what hardware he ran, and he wasn't sure about what type crank was in the car but that it was a 421 (likely a 990 if they were tipping the can). He did say the few times they grenaded the engine on nitro was not a result of a busted piston/rod/crank (from "inferior" parts), but because the tuneup was "off".
Here's a link showing the car, as well as the Gay's car, and the Centurian Firebird (which is what the seller told me my car was when I bought it, but I knew it wasn't true). Also shown is one of my favorites, the Green Elephant (that car looked bad a$$ even sitting still).
http://www.computermagiconline.com/70sfunnycars/