<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by red70goat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rabon:
.."When someone searches my VINs years from now they will see that they are GTOs...just like yours...the '04s and '05s are already "in the books"... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Rab, I don't think anybody is disputing the fact since GM owns the marketing rights to "Pontiac GTO" that these cars in the manufacturing sense are GTOs. Given the lack of product developement, marketing, GTO identity and overall negative reaction a precedent may have very well been set for a 2nd demise of the GTO. GM had a real opportunity with the GTO to be the leader in a renewed musclecar movement and they blew it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ha, red, just how much "product development" went into the early GTO's?? Fercrissakes, man, they took a Tempest off the line, crammed the bigger engine under the hood, probably firmed up a bolt here & a weld there, stiffer shocks, a GTO tag & voila, you've got yourself the original Goats. You keep acting like the GTO's were clean-sheet designs, unique platforms like the 'Vette. Come out in the sunlight man & view reality. I like the ol' GTO's bout as much as anyone, but facts is facts! The present GTO is light-years beyond anything thats worn the badge before, the fact that the skin over the top hasn't lit the fires of a lot of lookers is easily overcome, either by getting people to drive one (a drive makes the car look oh so much better) or pump up the boy-racer looks ala the 'Stang by altering the sheetmetal/plastic cosmetics. In the meantime I'll continue to enjoy the best car I've ever owned & enjoy the looks that <I> personally love!