<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Champ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by red70goat:
So, I submitted a few posts that were in no way derogatory, but suggested that Pontiac should consider retro styling and 2 engine options if they want to save the GTO. No matter what one says on this forum, unless you are totally behind GMs current attempt to revive the GTO then you know nothing about cars, you're an idiot, a troll, blah, blah, blah. Even the fact I've got a GTO which I've kept all factory right down to the lugnuts and it still runs well after 34 years and 278,000 miles apparantly unless you've got some sort of award that doesn't qualify you as a "car guy". According to Champ and others, I've got a beater, etc. If I was an 04 owner, I'd be heralded for keeping it in such an unmolested state. BTW Champ: Name me 1 post where I bagged on your 64, the Camaro, or your Caddy???? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
"What you failed to realize is that a smaller engine is not always more economical. The '05 lighter Mustang with a V6 gets worse gas mileage than the '04 GTO with the V8. That's a fact that you ignored."
>>>>1) I would never compare a modern day GTO (when Pontiac gets around to making one) to a Mustang as you frequently do. They are not in the same class. A fact you frequently ignore.
" A car guy would drive their GTO, something you have admitted you have rarely done in recent history."
>>> When my 70 is ready to go it will be driven on a nearly daily basis, except in winter. I will not drive it until then. At 278,000 miles I do not want to put any more wear and tear on it until the "restoration" is done. The road salt here chews up older cars like candy. HoweverI will forward your comments to my neighbor though. I'm sure he'll be shocked to know he's not a car guy. He has a 1970 Hemi Challenger, ( featured in Car Craft in the late '80s ) a 1969 Hemi Charger that gets into the 12's on a regular basis and a 66 Barricuda. Is a member of the NHOA, was a consulting engineeer with Carrol Shelby on the original plans for the Viper. But given that he's "retired" his well worn Challenger because he wants to restore it and not let the elements around here chew it up I guess he's not a "car guy" like you.
You say the car needs a $40,000.00 makeover,
>>> Given estimates on this forum and others I've been told 20k...then double it.
"Fourth, you say you haven't "bagged" on my cars. Well, when you called my Caddy a Lincoln, I consider that an insult. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>"
>>> Not intentional, but I'll give you that one. Caddy Limo...Lincoln...whatever. Like I said before,the only web page I looked at of yours was the '64. I knew you had a Chevy and something that had an "L" in it. As far as your awards: From what I've seen of your '64 any award recieved was certainly well deserved. That doesn't make you any more of an expert or a "car guy" than the rest of us. Info. on production, etc. is easily found on Musclecarclub.com or any other number of websites.I know plenty of rich pricks who pay somebody 40-50k to restore a musclecar. Possession doesn't make them experts. I happen to be one of those rich pricks who will be throwing 40k or so at somebody to restore my Goat. When that happens, I will not be heralding myself as any more of a car guy or expert than the guy who takes pride in his clean '71 LeMans or whatever it may be.