<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
sorry im not into chevies. if i was id write a book too. its as simple as this example. chevy made the 350 since 1955. along the way they have made improvments (R&D is supposed to do that) they find the weak points and make them stronger. they make the strong points even stronger. thats why some factory heads flow better then others and factory part X is better then the same part Y ( cranks,cams...) thats why there was hp/torque diffrences between the same size engines in diffrent years. look at the L98,LT1,LT4,LS1,LS6,LS2. why is one better then the other ? this is the evolution of the small block. from 78/9 on pontiac couldnt make their own engines. what other Gm make was making engines? chevy? do you think GM would piss off pontiac fans who buy the t/a,firehawk,formula,whatever by saying its a chevy LS1? you know and i know they wouldnt its not a good marketing move. i dont need technical data to prove that. its called common sense. if you cant understand that i doubt you can understand technical data. what part of the car is pontiac AND pontiac only other then the badge ? why dont you answer that question first. nobody has yet and i doubt anybody ever will. hows that for technical data? besides that im not the one who says "show me a Gm site that says this or says that" and when i bring up a point that several books written about the CHEVY LS1 since its not a "GM book" then it doesnt mean anything to certin people. you say im the one who chooses what/whos writing is and isnt correct? what does that make Mr_GTO? i brought up the point that jim hands book isnt a "GM book" but yet he knows his sh** and people bought it,read it, and learned from it. oh by the way i dont know about you but when i think of pontiac i dont think of a 5.7L. i think of 389,400,421,428,455.
once again tell me what on this car is pontiac other then the badge. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are how old? Did I read 22 in another post? If so, then according to your definition of what a "real" Pontiac is, you have never driven a "real" Pontiac new from the dealer. The technical reasons as to why you claim the LS1 is a chevy are the only things that would be valid in this discussion. You can't make the LS1 into a chevy with technical arguments because you have none. Does Jim Hand's book (as you so like to praise) tell you how to turn an old 350 chevy into an LS1 by some few simple modifications? No, it does not. Why don't you call Jim Hand and ask him if the LS1 is a chevy engine and get his technical reasons that make it so? You seem incapable of coming up with them on your own. If he's got them written down in his book then why don't you qoute those technical reasons? You obviously don't want to learn anything for yourself and are just interested in spouting "chevy engine" - "chevy engine" - "chevy engine" - "chevy engine" until you have convinced yourself that you can't be wrong so there's no reason to look up the technical details of the engine.
Since you are obviously so hung up on the LS1 being inferior to vintage Pontiac engines JUST because it is a "chevy engine" (again its not) then I will give you another assignment. Tell us SPECIFICALLY what makes the vintage Pontiac engines superior to the LS1? Come on here's a task that an engine expert such as yourself ought to be able to handle. There has to be something (other than the friggin' color) that makes those vinatge Pontiacs put the modern LS1 to shame. Let's here your vast wisdom on this subject.
PS. Concerning the original debate regarding technical reasons that you think the LS1 is a "chevy engine" here's some incentive: For every truly technical reason that you give showing the LS1 is a "chevy engine" I will give you 2 points showing that the designers of the LS1 where heavily influenced by Pontiac engines (particulary from the 1950's).
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