To the board: there are several statements above about Jim and Tom HandÂ’s role in our exhaust system testing program that requires some clarification. At the time several of these comments were made, both Tom I were serving as Moderators by request of PY. As Moderators, we were asked to not respond to some of the material posted in order to maintain a good image for PY. We agreed.
However, with the change to no moderators, we have been assured by PY that we now have the same posting privileges as ALL OTHERS on this board, so I wish to comment on several selected statements that appear above in this thread:
"Tom, I know your a big seller of their systems,"
"Tom, when ever some one endorses a product, or offers a sponsorship of that product, in
which that person has to perches the product. in order to offer a sponsorship, some were
along the lines there has to be some personal gains, weather it's a free exhaust system, or money paid for writing an article."
"I'm sure you've had many rewards from your testing for companies"
"it's under stand able if your a dealer for one particular product to try and defend
what you believe to be a good product"
1. We are not nor have we ever been "dealers" for any product, exhaust or otherwise. We do have access to lower costs from several companies for test purposes, but any material we have "bought" has been forwarded to the eventual user at our cost or even less!
2. If the writer of the above was inferring that we have gained monetarily from our test program, that is pure Bull Manure. We have spent far more in wear and tear on the test vehicle, fuel costs, shipping, and telephone costs then we have ever been paid for any aspect of the test program.
3. If the writer of the above was inferring that we have gained valuable knowledge and experience from our extensive testing, that is dead accurate. We now know how most of the available products work and are able to select the best parts for our own use. Additionally, we are able to help others with their selections.
4. If the writer of the above was inferring that we have made a lot of good contacts in the exhaust industry, have access to the latest product information, and are able to make technical presentations to others with the support and knowledge we now have, that is also dead accurate.
We made a technical presentation September 10 to the Regional Meet of the POCI in the Kansas City area, and were able to display and explain a variety of exhaust products we have gathered over the years, as well as demonstrate with a real car and a real exhaust system how certain of the products sound. As a result of review of some of the recent misleading posts on this thread, we ran across a relatively new muffler, and the Mfg asked us to run them on our test vehicle to compare against presently available quality mufflers. The companies that we have worked with over the years know that we are capable of presenting accurate and verifiable test data with no bias towards any product, and they will provide new products for testing. Depending on the test results, the mufflers will then be forwarded to others for use or testing, may be kept for display for future tech presentations, or may be given away as door prizes at Pontiac events. As any exhaust product becomes useless for resale after it has been run, seldom do the Mfgs want us to return the test material although we always offer to do so.
In summary, the testing we have done and that has been presented in HPP, the Pontiac Enthusiast, and Popular Hot Rodding pretty much speaks for itself, so if any have any questions about our approach, abilities, or bias, please take a look at any or all of those technical presentations. Jim Hand
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