<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tripower455:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
just to let you know im not a expert. i dont claim to be and prolly never will. thats why i buy books and learn. if i was an expert i wouldnt be on here asking for comments or questions about stuff that people have done or have a better way of doing it. why do i have to use technical data to prove my point when i can use common sense? like i said before if you cant understand common sense then you wont understand technical data. pontiacs were made since 78/9. but the real pontiacs were when the engines were made by pontiac. the others just have the badges. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmmm..... better call Pontiac and tell them to close up shop! I wonder if they know that they they don't exist?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>you keep on telling me to find this of find that but you cant answer one question ive been asking you. what part of the 04 GTO is a pontiac ( found only on or in pontiacs ) other then the badges? you cant side step that question forever. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's an easy one. Again...... The new GTO is the ONLY car available in it's price range that has it's features, just like 1964. It is in every way a modern day GTO. It is a fast, yet practical daily driver (race on Sunday, drive on Monday). If you think a modern day GTO should have a carbed 389, then you are truly living in fantasy land. That will never, ever happen. An exclusively Pontiac engine has only a smidge more of a chance. What economic sense does it make when there is an excellent engine that meets the performance emissions and durability criteria already available.
what parts on or in the new GTO are pontiac and only pontiac ? besides the badges ? thats not answering my question comparing this to the 64. yes i know pontiac wont make engines again thats why this car ISNT a "real" pontiac. just badges.
I have always been critical of the SBC due to the fact that it was a compromise between performance and cost. It was the cheapest engine in (with a few exceptions) the cheapest GM cars. Look at an old school Poncho compared to a trditional SBC, and the SBC parts look like like they came from a lawnmower engine. The LS-1 is NOT a small block Chevy. What SBC (or BBC or Pontiac for that matter) had 6 bolt mains, roller valvetrains etc.
yes SBC has been around since 1955. parts are cheap and readialy available. im not gonna argue with that. what BBC or pontiac had a 6 bolt main ? none. once again its R&D's job to make a stong engine. its their job to make the weak points strong and strong points stronger (evolution). 350 carb engine turned into L98,LT1,LT4,LS1,LS6,LS2 (keeps on getting better) if the L "series" engines are a small block with improvments on the small block dos it still make it a small block? and the 350 small block was made by chevy right? this is where the common sense comes into play.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>maybe you should go to the BMV and get that title changed. ill be waiting on your answers first before i find this or find that from GM sites or GM workers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think you're getting me confused with someone else. (I assume that you were addressing me, since I jokingly mentioned the DMV)
I have answered your question many times, and either you choose to ignore it, don't comprehend it, or don't agree. The new GTO is well worthy of the name. I agree that it could be a bit more retro styled, but other than that, it IS a modern day GTO. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i dont find comparing a 04 GTO to "like the 64" answers my question of what on the 04 gto is found in only pontiacs? other then the badges. its not the engine,frame,or any other major mechnical components.
ill still wait for your answer.