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Originally Posted by 455HOGT37
The 2+2 designation refers to the back seats being almost useless (think RX-7, Porsche 911, Nissan Z), though present. This differs somewhat from a 4 seat designation.
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Yup. The Holden GTO isn't a 2+2........ The back seats aren't almost useless, like in a Camaro, Firebird or Mustang. This is one of the reasons I got rid of my Formula... My daughter was getting too big to sit in the back "seat" of it!
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I don't know about the 66, but my 67 GTO (with 65 back seats, BTW) had a position for 3 in back.
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My '66 doesn't, as it's a convertible. No room or position for the third in the middle. Certainly no more room than my '04.
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And I certainly had 5 people in my car at various times. So I stand by my statement that 2+2 is not a defining characteristic of "Pontiac GTO". All GTOs built by Pontiac ("real" GTOs), had AT LEAST five seating positions, and the A-Body coupes could cary up to six (like my GT-37).
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It seems that this statement either isn't correct, or my '66 isn't a "real" GTO...... I can cram 3 people in the back of both my GTOs too.
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I will wholeheartedly agree that the back seats of the 04-06 are very comfortable and roomy, even for adults. You just don’t want to try getting back there in a rain storm, because by the time the seat motors forward and you have performed the gymnastic routine to get in, you will be soaked to the skin.
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The back seat ingress/egress is one of the 2 things I really don't like about the '04-'06. It would be far better to have a MANUAL release for the seat back that allowed it to quickly slide forward. The electric deal is a PIA as it takes so long for it to slide forward, then back.
It still doesn't make it a 2+2....... My Formula, which WAS a 2+2, wasn't that much easier to get into the back seat, and once there had no legroom whatsoever. I could not sit with my legs in front of me in the back of an F body. That's a 2+2...... The '04 has more legroom in the back than the '66 does. An adult can comfortably sit back there on long trips. You can't do that in a 2+2.......
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