http://www.dayton.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=4332 I live about 10 miles from this business, although I have never had any dealings with them or know anyone that has. This is as much as I can help you with. You might wanna PM Jegstek and ask him . Ron has lived in this area all his life from what I gather, and I'm sure he could give you some insight. He also does a lot of buying and selling of GTOs.