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Originally Posted by Cammer-6
Both A & F were included on the 4/29/68 price change; its very clear on that.
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Do What ?? Let me re-post that sheet dated June 5, 1968 with the April 29, 1968 effective date listed for price increase that I was referencing in my post - that you quoted and responded to.
PLEASE show me where you see ANYTHING mentioned about a GTO or 242 series on this page. I see Firebird mentioned 2 or 3 times - but there is nothing CLEARLY stating anything about them both. Particularly in the section concerning the 347 option that we are discussing.
I do have a sheet dated May 7 that clearly states GTO and Fbird Ram1 will upgrade to a Ram2 with a listed increase. But it lists no effective date. Nothing about April 29 or a June dating involved. What sheet are you confusing, maybe you have some other sheets that none of the rest of us do, or are you just confused period ?
I consent as I did before that they probably did go hand in hand being as its drivetrain related, but I see nothing that CLEARLY states that as you mention.
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Originally Posted by Cammer-6
Im not saying that there werent any RA1s built after the 4/29/68 date but seriously doubt if any were ordered and built after that.
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We have no way in knowing from a Car or the BHC when any car was ordered. Do you ? If so, please enlighten us all. All we can verify is a Build Week and a Billing Date.
What Brian and I are trying to get further ironed out is around what BUILD DATE did the switch start instituting. Yes, we all know what you have posted. Yes, we have all the documents saved that Everyone has posted. Yes, we reference and studied them all. And for Gods sake YES we are aware of the 4/29/68 effective date listed on the document. But that evidently means very little to us when compared to build dates we have so far. Surely the Ram2's did hit the line sometime no later than May 20. But that leaves a 3 week gap from April 29 to May 20.
Let me emphasize again, The Boss owns an 05A - First Week of MAY built Ram1 GTO. The Billing Date is MAY 8. How does that fit with April 29 cut-off you keep preaching ? It doesn't. Okay ?
Indeed maybe that Car was ordered before or even on April 29. How do we know. How do you know. Nobody knows. SO..... if we can get more MAY build date cars and MAY dated BHC's - we might find when the actual BUILD change fell into place. THAT IS THE QUEST.
What will this accomplish ?
It will help the guy who finds a clapped out 68 GTO/Fbird or one missing the drivetrain (hopefully me) - determine if it might be worthwhile to send $50 to PHS and see if they have stumbled on a Ram2 machine. So far it appears anything built before 05B will not be in the game. With more BHC's - we might find it stretches out to anything before 05C. Now can you see how the 4/29/68 is not in context with what the rest of us are trying to determine here ? We understand the document, but it has no exact/direct bearing on the cowl tag build date of the Car so far by example. Otherwise, The Boss would own a Voodoo Green Ram2 Automatic GTO built 05A with Ram1 pricing.
We want to find the earliest BHC we can that has a Label Price that factors into the Ram2 price schedule.
Your last 5-6 posts have seemed lacking and almost like an effort to block further findings and/or conspire against what we have verified by actual BHC's and documents.
Whats up with that Cammer ??