[2manyponchos]

"Still fighting to recoup the $2k we got ripped off for by Milt Schornack and his band of cohorts in Indiana on the '70 GTO deal." - Ron Landis

That statement is unreal to me as apparently being one of the 'cohorts from Indiana'. Let me first start off by saying that we were contacted by YOU AND KEVIN to help on this project and do the metal/paint work. We were just honored to be involved in such a part of Pontiac history. The metal work and parts were charged out on this project at COST. Paul, his business, and myself did not make a DIME on this project (in fact still owed for some parts). Paul charged only enough to pay his employee for fabrication time and the parts. Also the completely beautiful roll bar which had every tube custom bent to fit the lines of the car and maintain the stock interior did cost $1000. We made no money on that either! In fact I'm in the hole if you consider the 2 150 mile trips I made to pickup and deliver the rolling body to the fab shop. I didn't even think about charging for my fuel...it was DONATED along with 100's if not a thousand hours by Paul and myself on this car. Not too mention numerous trips to Michigan and Ohio for parts and parts delivery. WE NEVER DID AND WILL NOT MAKE ANY MONEY ON THIS PROJECT OTHER THAN THE BUSINESS ADVERTISING THAT MAY COME OUT OF THE FINISHED PROJECT BEING SEEN AT EVENTS. Please explain to me how I am a 'cohort' again. This is a deal between Kevin and Milt, I assume yourself as well. Please do not pull us into this.

I've gotta comment on this as well and want to state that I have never opened my mouth on this subject until now as I considered you and Kevin to be friends in the Pontiac community, but you opened the can of worms...

"It seems Rons son, Kevin did most of the work on said frame and not only was he not taken care of monetarily, someone else only put rear shocks on the completed frame and proceeded to take credit for the whole frame restoration" - Sirrotica

Like stated above I never mentioned this before because I considered you and Kevin to be a friend, but here it is. The frame was delivered to us with the front suspension assembled and lines, but no rearend or rear suspension. Random body mount holes were fixed with large (probably 7 gauge) washers placed on top of the frame/welded around and we would have needed to make different height body mounts for the entire car for everything to sit square and level. Decided to fix the mount holes properly and disassemble the frame. A significant amount of welding, straightening (rear cross member was severly bent as well as the c channels in the center of the frame), and body/paint work was done on the frame (after you delivered it done) FREE and never mentioned. Paul, myself, my brother-in-law, and my 14, 15, and 16 year old cousins completely redid and reassembled the frame (during the time Paul was supposed to be off work with major health issues). NOT A DIME WAS CHARGED OR A THING MENTIONED. Everything was redone and completely reassembled so the frame could be on display for the GTOAA convention in Columbus and show that progress was being made on the car for the vendors and everyone that was interested in the project. Once again I will mention the words FREE and DONATED. Never before have we publicly taken credit for completely doing the frame restoration on the car because I considered you a friend, but I AM STATING RIGHT NOW SINCE YOU OPENED THE CAN THAT WE DID COMPLETELY RESTORE THE FRAME!

I WILL ALSO AGAIN STATE THAT WE ARE NOT TIED IN WITH ANY POTENTIAL SALE OF THE CAR AND HAVE NOT, WILL NOT MAKE ANY MONEY ON THIS PROJECT (THAT YOU INVOLVED US IN FROM THE START). ADVERTISING IS ALL THAT WE WILL GET OUT OF IT AND THE PERSONAL SATISFACTION OF SEEING OUR WORK GO DOWN THE TRACK BECAUSE FOR ANY ONE THAT KNOWS US, WE ARE IN IT FOR LOVE OF PONTIACS AND IT IS NOT ABOUT GETTING RICH!

Continue to bring us into this and run our name into the ground...I WILL FIND A LAWYER.

Leave us out of your rant and we can go back to drinking beer, eating fried chicken, and talking Pontiac at Norwalk.

Should have let it go and am done for now.