[David Jones]

Originally Posted by lust4speed

I had a really crappy thing happen to us a month ago when we went to the local Chevy/GMC/Buick dealer to buy my son a used small truck. The SOB's actually had the nerve to price the truck on their lot below Edmund's and KBB's suggested trade-in value with the accessories on it. Cost me another 35 minutes checking my figures and then the truck to make sure that things were as they seemed. Took all the fun out of negotiating the purchase.

Twenty five years ago I had the need for the Kelly Blue Book for mobile homes, and once in their system, any book could be ordered. I always had the current edition of both used and new cars on my desk. The sticker prices and accessory prices were spot on the money. Then later, Edmonds hit the early internet, and I didn't have to buy the KBB's any more. Edmonds was also spot on.

Then about 8-10 years ago, it seemed that Edmonds sold themselves out to the big money. They became more interested in referrals to dealers, and their listed prices stopped matching the MSRP's of the vehicles. Every year the gap between their listed prices and reality seems to widen. At the very least it was shoddy publishing, and at the worse it was misleading people using their services.

David, congratulations on your new car.

Kyflier, I'd rather have you in my corner looking out for me than trying to depend on the misinformation that is being published today.

Mick, I was amazed at how Hoover seemed to want to sell me the car also. I had a folder full of info gleaned from every imaginable source and when Jason slid the 1st price across his desk I tried to hold back the smile. I was perfectly happy with their 1st offer, short of my idea on what our trade was worth. I discussed that with him, he wandered off and came back with my number and I signed the paper. Total dickering time was approx 5 minutes. $500 deposit and we'll see you tomorrow........