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Old 10-24-2011, 04:40 PM
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Smile '65 GTO Royal Bobcat 421

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My '65 GTO 421 Tri-power Royal Bobcat in summer 1969. I had a opened the hood orniment and cut away the extra flashing and put on a ram air pan.

It wasn't until years later I realized that my GTO emblems on my quater panels are where the '64 GTO's had them.

Funny the color of my '65 GTO was Palmetto Green.

Who say's that the factory never makes mistakes. I have no idea if this is was a early production car. There was never any quarter panel damage noted on the car.
Speaking of my '65 GTO. I used to go over to Royal and Sam Frontier, Ace Wilson's Parts Manager, would send me up stairs to pick out my intake manifolds, cast or aluminum. They would have them and exhaust manifolds hanging by hooks from the rafters. These were "take off"s from warranty replacement engines. The factory would send complete engine but the dealership had to use the owners original heads intake and exhaust manifolds. So the one up stairs could not be sold as new because they had been installed once. So....Sam would give us a great deal on them. I think I paid $10-15 on a cast intake and $25 for an aluminum intake ('69 - '70)
Little known item. Jim Wangers had Royal do testing of the effects of ram air. It did bring down the temperature.Some customers had three tubes from a sheet metal box over the carbs to the firewall above the heater box in 1964.

Royal built and sold fiberglass ram air pans in 1965. Remember, the Factory didn't have a Ram Air car until 1966. It was cheaper to build them in fiberglass than pay for tooling and dies for a stamped steel pan. I paid approx $50 for the pan with foam and another $10 for the hood orniment I cut open. The pan came with the instructions of what braceing to cut in the hood and the little bit of sheet metal behind the hood orniment. Sam told me that they even made a dual quad ram air pan that fit nicely under the '65-'67 GTO hood.

Keith Seymore's dad got one of the early sheet metals pans used to test the ram air. Keith can tell you more.

This should confuse the purests, fiberglass ram air pans in 1965. Before the intro of the 1966 Ram Air GTO. Now the great debate...LOL Just go out and enjoy the hobby and your cars.

Thing is ever as you think it seems/ed....

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