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Old 02-29-2012, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Champ View Post
If a truck is not registered, it can not be legally operated on public roads. Ford has already admitted that Chevy has more registrations. It's an accepted fact that Ford built more trucks.

So, while you claim that I have made an illogical syllogism, you have no form of statistical analysis to validate your claim (and Ford's) that Ford has more trucks over 250,000 miles.

Although you tried to claim that the vehicle's registration would document the mileage and prove this assumption, it was a claim that was very easy to discredit, and more of an illogical syllogism than I have made here.
Perhaps the registration does not carry the mileage. I concede the point. However, the title would and it would be possible to perform such a search, although difficult. Ford has admitted that Chevy has more registrations? OK - please provide a link to this information for all to see. It might be true or it might just be a claim - we'll know when we see your proof. Remember, the burden of proof rests with the party making the claim. I will refrain from repeating Ford's claim of more vehicle with more than 200,000 miles as I do not readily have access to this data.

Now to examine your conclusions based on "thin evidence" - here's where you fail.

Having more registrations = being more dependable. Really?
  • Where is your empirical evidence to support this claim?
  • How is "more dependable" defined here?
  • What is the criteria on which this claim is made?
  • Are you separating consumer use from industrial/commercial use?
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With 40 percent market share, Ford is America’s commercial truck leader
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=29958
Ford has, by a HUGE margin, the highest percentage of ambulance (van chassis) market and has continued to update the vehicles vs. only slight revisions from the 1995 Chevy redesign

But let's again examine the claim of "longest lasting" and "most dependable". Neither can be proven by registrations alone without major assumptions; hence, the questions above.
  • How were trucks used - purpose for purchase?
  • What is the average mileage of each brand of consumer/commercial truck?
  • Does having more registrations equate to more dependable? That's much too great a reach. E.g. if a Chevy owner drives less miles per year, he will theoretically have a longer "assumed life" for the vehicle. Does that make it more dependable?
Back to original debate about engines - how does the new Ecoboost engine from Ford stack up against the established large displacement engines of the others? Quite well, I believe. Equal or better total power, higher usable torque available sooner in RPM range and across wider RPM range, higher payload rating, higher towing rating, smaller, lighter package, great fuel economy without sacrificing "working nature" of truck. In all, Ford did a great job and I salute them.

If you like a Chevy better - keep buying them. Again, this is YOUR liking, your money and your decision. The Ecoboost engine family, however, is a technological Tour De Force.

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