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Old 03-29-2013, 12:57 AM
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Exclamation a judge motor story... and carb id please?

Everybody likes a judge story, so here it is.... the other day a old pontiac friend (Troy) that I lost track of shows up on my doorstep to visit and talk about the good old pontiac days when we were younger. While reminiscing about our old ponchos in yesteryears he states that he still has a carb, intake and possession of HO heads that came from a wrecked 71 conv.judge. Bingo! The memories come back from years past on these HO parts.

I know stories like these abound and usually turn out to be a 350 from grandpaws wagon, but there may be alittle merit to this one.

Circa, 1980ish I learned of a susposed low mile 71 convertible Judge motor, that had set for years at one of the area pontiac dealerships. The story I got was only the motor remained in the dealership shop, the totaled car was picked of the rearend, 4 sp tranny and any other good stuff and crushed. During that time gas hogs were frowned on, no one wanted to pony up some bucs to buy an old 455 and the shop foreman at the time didn't seem interested in letting the motor go. I learned of the motor (and car story) thru another poncho buddy that actually worked in the dealership shop during the timeframe. Being from out of town and not wanting to screw the deal on getting the motor, I gave my older brother a call since he was in the same line of business and dealt with the new car dealers in that area. Low and behold my brother said he knew the shop foreman well at the pontiac dealership and would hit him up for the motor.
The next day my brother gave me a call and said he bought the motor from the shop foreman for 100bucs, the pontiac dealership delivered it to his place of business and I could pick it up in a day or two and reimburse him. Alright! I had just scored a judge motor...I thought! A couple of days go by and I went to pick up the motor at my brothers place of employment where the motor was. My brother walked out to greet me acting kind of down. We chit chat a minute, I asked where the motor was and he said a guy named Bo came by, happened to see the engine and he sold the motor to him for 200bucs. I was ticked, but realized he may have needed the money, so i just forgave and went on. Besides blood is thicker than an old motor.

I knew the guy named Bo my brother had sold the motor to. I got ahold of Bo in a couple of weeks to buy it from him, but he had traded the 455 already to another poncho buddy named Troy for a 428. I got ahold of Troy after some time and relayed the story about my brother selling the engine out from under me and how he ended up with it. By that time, Troy had went thru the engine, did alittle portwork on the heads, installed a bigger cam, stuck the 455 in a 69 Goat and street raced awhile. I then lost track of Troy for awhile and what happened to the engine.

Fast forward 15 years or so to the mid 90s. I learned of a guy named Stacy that had some poncho parts and wanted to sell out to run brand x parts. I got in contact with Stacy and struck a deal on all his poncho parts, blocks, heads, motors, misc stuff. I did notice one of the blocks was a WC code 71 455 I stuffed back in the pile and kinda forgot all about it until the other day!

Fast forward one more time to our talk the other day, the conversation came up on the Judge 455 motor Troy had in his 69. Troy told me he sold his 69 Goat rolling, pulled the judge 455, sold the heads to his brother in law, kept the intake and carb all these years, and sold the shortblock to a guy I will call Frank. After a short while Frank had sold the shortblock to a fellow named Stacy! This was the same Stacy I had bought the WC block from!!!! I had owned the judge block for some 18 years and did not know it!

Anyway, the other day Troy sold me the carb and aluminum intake. His brother in law sold the 197 heads to me. I do own a 71 Judge convertible motor after all!...maybe....

I am no carb guru.Here are the numbers off the carb. 7041273 VH 2090. What is it?

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1966 GTO Ragtop
1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip
1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto
1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold)
1970 GP SSJ
1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390
1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build)
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