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Langer and Kinsler? lol, is this a serious question? Like I said, Butlers and Kauffman have done more than anyone, because they keep the average pontiac guys car alive, even PY can be thrown in the mix, for they all supply parts the average guy can use.
The cheapest and probably best thing they provide is exposure. I race. I don't go to SEMA to look at motors on stands. I go to the track. I see Langer, Kinsler and Marcella's motors and watch THEM race. I see Gaydosh, Rex, the Butlers and Kaufmans. If you don't think the manufacturers' don't learn from the racers you are a fool. Well come to think of it , you probably don't.
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 Mike McCarty You can drop the line, but you'll never kill the spirit!
Pump gas 535 w/Marcella cv/1's. 11.0 compression, 4000 stall, 3.73 gears, 275 radial, to the axle exhaust, 3470# w/driver. 9.49 @ 140..........so far
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