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Originally Posted by Cerberus

Friends don't let friends drive Fords.

I don't agree with that; I've had several older F250 & F350s that gave great service even being worked mercilessly that other makes would not hold up to.

Ford Contours are great cars if you want to keep your mechanic busy, and the 3.8 Ford V6 is the headgasketest blowing POS engine around,.

Originally Posted by Old Blue 66

Funny thing about Camry's. (I Own a 2010 SE). I used to work for a public auto auction. The cars they sold were junk. If it could run through the auction under its own power, it was a sale-able car. These were cars that seriously were at the end of their life.

We used to get Camry's in all the time with 300,000 miles or more all the time and they still ran through the auction. They were the only cars that would come in "sale-able" with those miles.

IMO seems most 4 banger imported cars are not sold or traded until they're on their death beds.

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

If you want a GM/Toyota made in the US (Calif.) car the Vibe would be tough to beat, bought one for my wife new in 2008 and it now has around 165,000 on it now. Tires brakes and a tune up with regular oil changes is all I've done to it so far. We even pulled an enclosed 6X10 trailer with it 1600 miles with it when almost new, and have used it to pull that trailer and even haul tow dollies with cars on them since then. They hold their value well and used ones bring decent money. A toyota Matrix is not the exact same car and many parts don't interchange between the 2 cars. Many do, but not all parts interchange.

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x 2 on the Vibe; engineer at work has one he commutes in. 200K + and he has nothing but praise for the car. Pretty decent car and the fuel economy is supposed to be pretty good too -