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Old 05-25-2015, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint View Post
Leaving a car in ist gear (manual) or Park (auto) is 100x more effective than a parking brake which relies on the tension of a cable to maintain braking force. How exactly does a transmission jump out if gear in a parked gar? It doesn't. The resistance of the engine's compression and the clamping force/friction material of the pressure plate/clutch disc far exceeds the clamping force of an emergency brake and cable. Come on, have you driven off with your emergency brake on? In most cases, you hardly notice it is on. Have you ever tried to push a car while it is 1st gear? The tires slide on the pavement before the engine will turn over.

That's a lot of nonsense coming from a guy who drives an auto.

A properly setup cable ebrake will not lose tension. A hydraulic one has an higher chance of losing pressure. A manual transmission car can be bumped out of gear by someone hitting it while parking, or by someone inside the car (say a passenger waiting, exiting, or entering the vehicle). Not to mention you can easily think you engaged the gear bit it just isn't quiet there yet.

No one is disputing the clamping force of a pressure plate.

Depending on weight and the friction coheficient of your tires, you could over come engine compression. While this situation isn't as common, it is possible. You must not be familiar with bump starting a manual.

Putting a manual in first gear and putting an auto into park at two very separate things.

As far as driving with an Ebrake on, yeah you can tell. You will have a difficult time taking off from a start and then rear will noticeably drag with a properly adjusted parking brake. It will be harder to tell if your driving an automatic, which simply has a go button and requires zero attention from the driver to operate.

Long story short, fix your ****ing ebrake. It'll hold your car in place provided you did it correctly. Don't rely on either a parking prawl or first gear to hold it in place. If you trust your brakes to stop your car you should trust them to hold it in place (along with an engaged gear or parking prawl). You just need to keep your equipment maintained, it could kill someone.