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Originally Posted by PAUL K
We made 980hp (Pontiac) naturally aspirated on a budget, but we have never done an unlimited budget Pontiac build.
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Fultons combo is NOT unlimited budget! More money than a street strip car? Sure, but no way unlimited budget.
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We specialize in very fast street/strip engines. However our heads and intake have run as fast a 6.8 @ 204 mph on a traditional Buick V-8 with standard push rod location ( once again a budget engine) and we are planning on going faster this year. 
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At what weight and CI is this Buick? Is it NA? How is this relevant to a Pontiac discussion?
Do you specialize in port development or are you just another machinist with a die grinder porting heads and intakes?
I'm honest enough to say even I can make improvements with a die grinder and sand rolls but NO WAY am I a head porter nor am I claiming I could out do your work.
1100 HP NA Pontiac as a nitrous build(with the n2o off) compared against an NA Pontiac build with same ci or larger with
over 3 points more compression is splitting hairs??? Really??? Cam timing events totally unfavorable to optimum NA requirements, manifolding, headers etc.. Really???
Just maybe you ought to find out who else uses the dyno Dick uses. Maybe you want to find out who witnessed results. Maybe find out what Dicks track reults were with his E-heads compared to numbers from same dyno. Others results from same dyno.
Its OK for you to tell us a dyno number, but somehow anything from the CV camp is a lie?
Dont get me wrong, not diminishing anyones Pontiac 1100+ hp NA build(not many regardless of head choice and they benefit all of us eventually), nor am I out to diminish your customers results.
I do however look at what an entire build is and judge it accordingly. They are all the sum of what they are.
To suggest nearly 4 points compression and same or greater cubes at higher rpm is "splitting hairs" is about as misleading as it gets.
Its as if you are assuming the average reader in this forum isnt smart enough to see the difference or know that a power adder motor is a completely different build than an NA combo.