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Originally Posted by John Langer
450cfm will NOT give you 1300hp n/a on top of a 565" Pontiac. Not even close.
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I was trying to say cfm is not everything. Look, SOME of you it seems want to disclaim or knock what Mike, John and Scott did. But the numbers ring true. ET,weight, MPH right at, around 1200 HP. His heads still had the Edelbrock steel guides in them. And the 414 number comes from me. I asked him when I committed to buying them. But he did say they were not even flowed the last 2 times they were worked on by John. Could have been more,were never flowed. I think some are still butthurt the times were run with them.
Some people have more money, but not more drive and just big freaking balls to just do whatever it takes to go fast. Some cracked him when he had problems trying to do what he did . Break a piston, a 1400$ piston, buy 2500$ billet pistons. Oiling problem,go dry sump. He had something in him, driven. He did do it then died. When we talked he had the "last act of defiance"in him. I felt better every time I talked to the man.He was going HPs. Johns first set went459. Call it 460 cfm. Very last conversation I had with him he said he thought John could get 480 out of them. The 459 was with stock valve location. Mike said he was going to have the valve put where it needed to be to make the most power. going to put in effort like no other. One of the last things he said was he thought JM could get 480.
10 sec has the heads and Mikes old intake. His effort will tell a lot. But this is real street, no prep , one burnout, middle of the night cray $H!T.
Not for a second do I believe "this" "cfm"means this much HP.
Some people get rubbed wrong way when someone else goes fast.
Mikes weight, ET and MPH back it up. No dyno there.
BTW, Langer, Rex, Leech and others not mentioned are heroes of mine. Pontiacs rule.