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Originally Posted by i82much
I have an aftermarket block in my 65 GTO, aluminum heads, quick fuel carb. Repop gauges and sheet metal, Dana 60, and a muncie with an aftermarket case.
Sometimes I wish I'd done it with factory parts. I'd love to have a 421 tripower or dual quad setup instead, original gauges and sheet metal, all that jazz. But truth is, sooner or later you are going to have to put an aftermarket part on your car if you want to drive it a lot. And chances are pretty good that part was made outside of the USA. So I think we all end up falling somewhere on a spectrum of where we are comfortable, how far we are willing to deviate from building a car exactly like GM did in the 60's.
I don't have a logical answer as to why I prefer an aftermarket Pontiac block in my car to an aftermarket BBC or an LS engine, it's just kind of what felt right to me. I'd consider trading it for a nice original 421, maybe something with factory round ports from a later engine, would be pretty fast and fun still and more "Pontiac." But what's the point in driving around in a 421 car with chinese gauges? Better go burn rubber with what I have and not worry about it.
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Can't disagree with that post.
I had a complete 376 hp 421 engine: Heads, fresh .010/.010 crank, that I basically gave to a friend for $200 just to get it out of my garage. Same deal with four 400 blocks from 1968 to 1970. I will never use them so I gave them away.
I still have my original 1964 389 Tri-Power Engine and 4 speed trans for the car but only because I want to keep the car and those parts somewhat together.
So after owning the car since new from the GM Brass Hat Executive (he drove it for 6 months), I have owned it. Far longer than 99% of the people on this board of thousands have owned their Pontiacs. 242177P probably was in diapers or not even born when the car was sold. So he pretends that I am a Ford Guy and he is a Pontiac Guy. RIGHT. Can't fix stupid.
I am a Boost Guy, I can make anything fast.
Drone Aircraft that fly in the skies 40,000 feet up taking pictures of the Bad Guys for days at a time powered by Hydrogen Fuel.
Ford 4.6L engines that can run 5.70s in the quarter in a car, not a dragster or Funny car.
Bonneville engines that can run 270 MPH in a 82 Trans Am.
So the little boy in diapers thinks his bawling contributes anything to the discussion on Pontiac vs LS engines for engineering capabilities?
You got to be kidding. He is just a troll over in the clubhouse.
I personally give examples in discussions I have. Some should try it sometime. General Motors made the decision to Kill a dying breed of engines, Pontiac and Oldsmobile. Just like Ford Killed the Flathead engines, the 300 cid 6 cylinder engines and 5.0L engines, and the 312 Ford engines.
The 302 engines were weak and had crummy heads until Engineering came up with heavy duty blocks, cranks, and good flowing heads to work with the Centrifugal Superchargers at the time. The last real "Heavy Duty" Pontiac Block was 455 SD engine in 1973.
1973, 1983, 1993, 2003, 2013, 2020, almost 50 years ago.
Most guys would like the original cars so that they could later sell the cars for big cash. Purely a money thing. No love for the original cars. A few: John V, OMT, and a couple of others still have their 64 GTOs they bought new.
The rest are just after the bucks or want to live the dream of owning a muscle car.
The LS engine is a fine engine. As is the aftermarket parts from some companies. That is all I will say on that deal.
Tom V.