[RocktimusPryme]

Originally Posted by Chris65LeMans

You need to negotiate directly with dealers to get the best prices. They can ( and will) sell you a new car for $200 over invoice, but they aren’t going to advertise that fact. You need to do your research and call ‘em.

As I got better at negotiating, I went from buying low mileage 1 year old lease returns to just buying new cars - I found that I can get them cheaper.

I found the same. Especially with pickup trucks. Im no expert but I have found the best deals to be the last of the new last years models on the lot. When I was shopping last, the "Certified Pre Owned" trucks were like maybe 1-$2000 cheaper than new. Ill pay $2000 for 0 miles instead of 30k.