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Old 07-23-2022, 04:41 PM
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good point on synthetic fluids handling heat better than old non synthetics. synthetic fluid will not break down near as fast as older fluids due to heat or wear/time... but the charts show as you approach & pass ~220 its not the fluid that fails its the internal parts of the trans like seals harden, plates slip & clutches burn out. i dont think any fluid will prevent that at extreme temps. its more of a reference point to indicate what higher temps do to older fluids as well as internal parts.

i have a 4th gen 4 runner & toyota also calls their WS ATF "lifetime" but it most certainly is not, the owners manual tells you to do a full exchange at 100k miles or 60k miles if used for heavy towing or other hard abuse like off roading. wonder if buried in the ford OM there is a stated fluid change at a certain mileage? toyota also has many trans/engines of this era going 300k+ miles, some on original ATF & they all use standard spin on oil filters ... theres a documented tacoma with the same engine/trans as 4runners that hit 1 million miles & was still going strong. modern vehicles are much better built than older or classic cars as far as drive train reliability.
I run John Deer tractor fluid in my th400 it has a higher burning point and is used by multiple racers on other sites. They have a hi and lo viscosity which can raise or lower stall speed but a few hundred rpm. It comes out of the bottle clear so I added some red fluid dye to make sure I see any leaks or other issues.

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