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Old 07-15-2021, 09:18 PM
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Here is a question on this car... why is the Safe-T-Track not HD? All axles 3.36 and numerically higher should be billed out as HD STT at $63.19. You normally only see the $42.13 STT (non-HD) billed out on AC cars which this car doesn't have.

My guess is this car was ordered by an individual buyer who just wanted the car to suit his personal tastes.

If the dealer really wanted a "price leader" Judge to draw buyers I'd think he wouldn't have ordered things like a console or a STT or power brakes. Especially since those few little extras pushed the car over the phycological barrier of $4k.

Most dealers who were ordering any kind of "bait" cars would order power steering but not power brakes because for the vast majority of budget buyers power brakes were really not needed but power steering was a real pain to live without.
To answer your first question, all '70 model PONTIAC 8.2 SAFE-T-TRACK-HD rears were 3.90's & 4.33's. Look at a few original invoice copies, all '70 model HD STT rears will have a retail billing of $63.19 & were either in RA4 cars or were special ordered (often behind an M21) in a base horse or RA3 GTO. A factory installed 4 pinion STT carrier, alone, does not make a HD STT rear. In the '69 & '70 GP Pontiac 8.2's, the mid ratio (typically 3.23) 8.2 STT rears all were of a 4 pinion carrier design, but center hsgs were gray iron & axles were std duty verions. Disassemble & reassemble a bunch of these later Pontiac 8.2 rears & it becomes clear, the PONTIAC 8.2 10-bolt 3.55 SAFE-T-TRACK rears while sharing the N housing & 4 pinion low ratio carrier, do not originally have the HD forged axles used in the HD STT 8.2 rears.

As far as All Tinted Glass option goes it is very very common in the South, SW, & the Plains states. Dealers down this way typically clicked it off more often than not on late '60's & early 70's non AC LeMans & GTO. Much more so than they did just a tinted windshield, which was a much more common process on '64-67 A-bodys in these parts. AM radios ordered in nearly every A-body seemed to be very common option as well. Thats my experience down this way after near 4 decades of extensive boneyarding, & dragging in parts & project cars.

Currently, I have a local customer (original owner) with a '70 GTO. It's almost ready for paint. Like the above '70 Judge it is also a burgundy car, don't see many that color. Originally equipped as WT, M20, manual strg & power drums, AM radio, no console, original rear is 3.55 STT. Odd enough, for it being dealer stock ordered in Zone 20, it only had a tinted front windshield which is what I typically run across further up north. Have sold quite a bit of original glass over the years & it's been a PITA for a long time to source nice uncratched clear back glass for this era of two door Pontiac A-body.

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