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Old 04-25-2019, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ho428 View Post
Although they has a couple early release issues I thought the Quad Four was a great engine. I had an Olds Cutlass Calais Q-4 5 speed, that car was a real sleeper.
I got my first as a theft recovery in 2001;
I have always had at least one since.
I for one love them.



The (Cutlass Calais) Quad 442 is the one which has the best prospect to become a late model collectible, purely because of it's "442" badge, but the Pontiac Grand Am with the Quad4HO drivetrain is the much better package.

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Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's View Post
Some people got 100,000 miles out of a 301 but a few here and there doesn't make them good. Water pump jobs on Quad Whores 10 years ago were $600.00.
The later re-engineered 2.4L "Twin Cam" engines used a water pump which required that the timing chain be redone at the same time, but the early 2.3L "Quad4" engines really were not that bad;
The water pump was timing chain driven, but the water pump timing chain gear was a seperate unit from the actual water pump, which could be removed rather simply from the rear of the timing housing;
There was other stuff to get out of the way, but I would really suspect that the $600 job was either for the "Twin Cam", or a padded price for shops which maybe wanted more "gravy" jobs.

1987.5-1994 2.3L water pump:


1996-2002 2.4L water pump:


I prefer the pre-1995 2.3L engines (1995 model year engines were still 2.3L, but were a hybrid betwwen the earlier Quad4 design, and the soon to come Twin Cam design.
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1970 Formula 400
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A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)