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Old 02-18-2023, 02:39 PM
jlorenzo jlorenzo is offline
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I have been restoring GTO's since My first in 1978. Well aware of PHS, build sheets, VIN decoding etc., tag locations, ALL engine and transmission codes and number locations. And as well can rebuild a 389 / 400 from that time period. They have been on the back burner for a while, however still in my garage. No need for the condescending attitude, you may just run into someone that knows a little more than you. As with generational progression alot has been overlooked. And yes mine is an original PHS documented Judge. Thank you for your expertise





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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin View Post
Sounds like you have bad information.
Is your car even a documented Judge ?
Do you not have the Pontiac Invoice for the car ?
That is Step #1
PHS is where you get that , Pontiac Historical Services
It is not free

The trim tag is on driver side cowl - underneath the hood.
It has your paint code on it , if that helps ring any bells.
On that tag - next to the left rivet - is your build date - for example 11D ,,, 02C ,,,,, 05A

If your paint code is 72
And your build date is between 01B through 02D ,,, you are in the hunt.
But not all color code 72 cars were Judges.
It isn't a Judge until you have the Factory PMD Invoice , or another strongly supportive original factory document.

There is no way to prove a Judge just by examining the car itself.
There are only suggestive details , which can be replicated .
Some details can eliminate the possibilities all together.