[65GTO428]

What is the difference between tri power and ram air on a 65 goat? On NADA and Manheim Gold ect., they say that tri power adds 25% to the value and ram air adds 20%. I thought these were the same thing. The hood scoop acts as a functional ram air, and I thought it was the first ever. What is the difference???

[65GTO428]

What is the difference between tri power and ram air on a 65 goat? On NADA and Manheim Gold ect., they say that tri power adds 25% to the value and ram air adds 20%. I thought these were the same thing. The hood scoop acts as a functional ram air, and I thought it was the first ever. What is the difference???

[The Champ]

Tri-power is three 2 bbl carbs.

Ram air is cold air induction through the hood scoops.

Not all tri-powers came equipped with the functional ram air setup.

1965 was the first year that a ram air setup was available as a factory option.

[bigpop]

Champ,I beg to differ with you on this one.The Cold AIR Induction or Ram Air was made available on August 17.1965 as an over the counter dealer only option.It was an accessory item under P/N 984716.Enclosed in a box,it included a spare hood scoop to be cut out by the customer or dealer at an additional cost and painted the body color,a tub or pan with foam rubber seal and installation instructions.
The price increase for 65 Ram Air does not incorporate the using of a reproduction pan and seal.It is for a real 65 pan and seal preferably with the box and instructions.I have heard only a few hundred were made available but,have never seen a written exact number.One thing I read from a member here long ago said he asked Pete Mc Carthy,and he claimed Pete told him that a little over a hundred were sold.
Think about it,ypu can't ewxpect to have a 65 convertible worth (tri power of course)appraised at $40,000.00 and buy a scoop and cut it out,and then buy a repro pan(65 pans are not available)you have to use the 66 which is different,and a seal and expect a 20 % increase in the value of your car(about 8K) for a couple hundred dollar expenditure.I have met folks who bought a tripower for their NON WS block,added the above stuff and thought they had made a killing on the value of their car...uh,I think not!

[65GTO428]

so there is really no way to get a nos one or a used one that is not a reproduction unless you get real lucky in the right place at the right time. What about the replacement hood scoops? I was just curious about the value, but I would still like one for the performance. I see now some of the repros are metal instead of fiberglass, that would help I would think.

[Trips4me]

I don't think you're going to see a significant improvement in performance with one. Plus they are open to the weather so when it's raining your air filters are going to get wet and that is not gong to improve your performance at all. They do look cool though when you pop the hood.

[Tom Vaught]

I have a friend who traded three 66 correct steel pans for a correct 65 pan for his 65 many many years ago.

It is the only 65 original pan I have personally seen.

Tom V.

[65GTO428]

where would you get a correct hood scoop though? does anyone have any pictures of one?

[vidguy]

You could machine/cut your existing NON open scoop. That's what the open scoops were. You would then have a "Correct" scoop. But as Big Pop said its not the real deal unless it came with the option.

[Jim Doran]

Here is a pic of a correct Steel 65 RA pan. My buddy has 3 of them that he uses on his cars.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimdoran/...-1445_IMG.html

Equally difficult to find is a steel fan shroud for 65.

[65GTO428]

what is the shroud? Is that the foam piece on top, the seal? My scoops are already open, the old owner must have cut them. So I guess for kicks I can get one of the new repro steel ones since they are pretty cheap to see what it does. I can always take it off right

[Jerry H.]

Don't forget you have to cut the braces in your hood for the scoop to work correctly. It's not as easy as just taking the pan on and off if you don't like it!

[65GTO428]

"My scoops are already open, the old owner must have cut them."

There are already holes through both of the inserts. That is all that needs to be done right?

[Jerry H.]

No, the underside of the hood itself has to be cut for the pan to fit correctly when you close the hood. Buy the 'GTO Restoration Guide' By Paul Zazzarine and Chuck Roberts and it has a diagram of where and how to cut the hood. This diagram was included with the open scoop and pan as a kit and shipped in the trunk when the Ram Air was ordered from the factory in 1966.

[Jim Doran]

Here is a picture of the 'cut' hood. I have more pics of this if needed.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jimdoran/...-2347_IMG.html

[lawbreaker2]

Ok, so How can I tell if my pan is a 65 or a 66 that I have on my car now, I have had the car for 20 years now with this pan. It is a steel pan.

[Old Man Taylor]

65 has a smaller hole in the middle, a 66 has all three holes the same size.

[65GTO428]

jrdoran,

my hood looks just like that underneath. The only thing that seems like it was cut were the two holes, just like in your picture.

[bigpop]

OMT has the easiest way to identify.FYI,also,the 65 pan has a downward pitch for the first 1/3 of the pan(towards front).Also,the 65 pan's has the edges (raised)pointing downward toward the engine.The 66 has the edges raised upward to better hold the seal in place.Alsxo,the 66 has some strategically placed recessed areas that help prevent the pan from moving once installed. bigpop

[Tom Vaught]

JRDORAN,

Three pans plus you have a steel pan (or two)
I am impressed!

Tom V.