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might be cool to have a thread about your actual experience with chamber size compared with the advertised compression or chamber size; so if you've cc'd some chambers please post the numbers.
I cc'd these tonight: 1970 #11, small valves, pressed in studs, 90cc 1973 (June) #46, with stamped code 6h, screw in studs, 95cc (Not GTO heads) 1975 5C, with stamped code 8, 2.11/1.66, 98cc |
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My 1974 5C 4's CCed at 101cc
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I calculated the compression ratio on my 1970 350 using 6 cc's dish for reliefs, .020 in hole with the 90 cc chambers, got 7.74:1. A long way from the 8.8:1 factory advertised...LOL no wonder I could run 44 degrees total timing and NOT make the thing ping. Has a 066 cam in it...
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Ugh
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For some reason, a few years ago I bought a set of 17 castings. I was hoping for a little higher compression head for a 350. The matched pair both measured 83.5 cc's. Better than the 11's (which I did not know till this thread, I did not measure mine when doing my build for some reason) The 17's would get my 350 a fuzz over 8:1 coming in at 8.18:1 LOL
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down...
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1975 5c's 101 cc after being milled for basic cleanup and valve job
1968 #15's 75cc after milling for cleanup and multiangle valve job |
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I used to keep track of this as well, haven’t done my more recent ones unfortunately.
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1979 Firebird Trans Am 301/4spd (Now 428) 1977 Firebird Formula 400/Auto 2007 Grand Prix GXP 5.3L Last edited by 74Grandville; 09-12-2017 at 08:26 AM. |
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On my ported 6x-8's, I had them cut .050 thou to raise the compression on my next build. I was surprised they came back at 95cc ( I was expecting closer to 90cc ). I then remembered I removed the eyebrow over the intake valve. They were 100cc before any work was done to them.
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That chart has a mistake, the high comp #46 head was only used on the 428 motors 2 bolt main motors ,not 400s!
The 1973 #46 was only used on the 350 ,never any 400s. The 6X heads have the smaller Exh valve as does the 5C heads. And just for more detail, the 1970 casting #12 Head was only on the manual Trans RAIII motor and the factory literature states the CCs as being 66.
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! Last edited by steve25; 09-12-2017 at 08:02 AM. |
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Yeah, that is a strange head. I can't imagine a 350 running correctly with such a big chamber that is why I questioned it. I had emailed John Wallace about it too. I have seen someone post a 73 #46 with the same chamber size, so I’m not alone.
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"...the 1970 casting #12 Head was only on the manual Trans RAIII motor..."
Some online sites disagree with that. It is said that the '70 YZ code engine had #12 heads, with an auto trans. I don't have a clue. http://www.wallaceracing.com/enginesearch4.htm "...factory literature states the CCs as being 66..." Never saw any online info that low. That's down in 350HO territory. Last edited by ponyakr; 09-12-2017 at 08:36 AM. |
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All 1970 RAIII engines and 400M/T engines uses the #12 heads.
Attached picture shows info from 1970 Performance brochure. |
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There's also a interesting 7HI 350 casting with a small Intake and a1.77" Exh .
I had a set for a few years , but never got to CC them!
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
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My '68 #16 d ports cc'd at 77cc, instead of the advertised 72cc. They have some de-shrouding on the intake side, but definitely not 5cc's worth.
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I believe skip has stated removing the intake eyebrow takes about 2-3cc normally
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1979 Firebird Trans Am 301/4spd (Now 428) 1977 Firebird Formula 400/Auto 2007 Grand Prix GXP 5.3L |
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