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anyone drawing there cool air from the cowl vents? If so, any do's or donts?
how about sum pics? thanks for ANY input..
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I can think of about ten do's.
Zero dont's. |
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Are you talking about modifying the firewall and using the stock vents or a cowl induction hood?
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or bring it in from the grill im trying to stay away from the scoop on the hood deal. thanks for the reply
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Yardbird, in about 1966 a friend, who built hot air heating systems, made a hat, like you described, for my dual quad 389 that was ducted from the heater inlet housing in my 63 LeMans. With no other changes, I went from a 12.14 to 11.71.
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Bill 64 GTO, tube chassis w/606" IA tall deck, PG & a pro geared Fab 9". 2750 lbs. [email protected]/4, [email protected]/8, 1.1981-60-ft. 8/10/08
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i realy thought more people would be doing this if it was that big of a plus i guess as long as your not restricting the flow all should be good
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Jim Hand has been doing it for years. Air cleaner to firewall cowl duct. His is homemade by adding a second hose duct to a stock aircleaner and two hoses to the holes in firewall. I just read an article on a restored 63 Z-11. Air cleaner to cowl from the factory. RamAir something or other company has been selling air cleaners for years that have two 4" duct openings to go forwards or backwards. Not sure if an air cleaner element goes in it or its just a huge carb hat. The difference in ambient air and underhood air can be well over a hundred degrees.
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Fab'd a semi enclosed air cleaner to cowl panel and TA shaker scoop(attached to hood) on my 68 FB.
Lower pan and sides extend to opening in cowl. No top, but with weatherstripping, it should seal 95% to cowl and hood. The windshield is out(stripping/patching/repainting), so i dont know how effective it is yet. Will have pic's as soon as i get someone over to fix home computer
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If you cant drive from gas pump to gas pump across the map, its not a street car. http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/b...hop/?start=100 |
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Hey Everybody, I just have to ask - Will NHRA allow you to run such a thing in the ET Brackets? Thanks Again, CraigG.
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Any pics yet?
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im still workin on this ideal,,
i know sumone out there has pics!!?? pleezzz??
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Within this article. Double click the photos for larger size.
http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehi..._lemans_wagon/ |
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I built my cold air setup using a '74 B-body (Bonneville) air cleaner, adding a second snorkel. I used an angled plastic duct from a B-body on the passenger side, and a straight one from an X-body (Ventura) on the driver's side.
Both are plumbed into the cowl using metal tubing ducts that I fabricated, one has 3 tabs welded to the tube to attach over the hole that used to hold the wiper motor. The other one has a tube welded to 1/8" thick plate that covers the hole where the heater blower fan used to reside. I didn't have to cut or drill anything on my car ('64 GTO) to plumb the air to the cowl, since I had removed both the heater and wipers from my car these two holes were available. The holes are both plenty big enough to flow all the air the engine needs. I think I spent about $30 at the local Pick-Your-Part for all the factory components. ![]() ![]()
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/3.08 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 1966 VW Type 2 Single Cab Pickup 140hp 2276 1956 VW Type 2 Panel Van 36hp 1200 1957 VW Type 1 Beetle 180hp 2276 |
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Who stole the Fenderwells off that Street car.
or did they rust off.
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They only rust off on cars from Florida, not here in So Cal wiseguy. ![]() Heater and wipers are going back on too on this street car, so I won't be using the aircleaner I fabbed. Won't fit anyway with the bathtub tunnel ram intake I'll be running on my street car. ![]()
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/3.08 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 1966 VW Type 2 Single Cab Pickup 140hp 2276 1956 VW Type 2 Panel Van 36hp 1200 1957 VW Type 1 Beetle 180hp 2276 |
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thanks for the replies, and the pics, i guess i will have to fab sumthing that is real low profile to keep from cuting a hole in the hood.
i have a 8"cowl hood scoop but it is allmost the size of my hood. lol we talked about cuting it down but i like the clean look of a first gen f/b hood with no scoops.. cant say its stealth because the open headers and slicks are hard to hide, but thats another day thanks again mr. hand and b-man for the pics. anyone else?
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b-man it may be hard to hide those two 4's
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Over on the FGF site this was a nicely job done, although it's a sbc it's a nice cowl induction system on a FGF.
http://firstgenfirebird.org/ubb/ubbt...page=0&fpart=1 |
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I'll be building an airbox to fit over them, with cool air feeding the quads.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/3.08 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 1966 VW Type 2 Single Cab Pickup 140hp 2276 1956 VW Type 2 Panel Van 36hp 1200 1957 VW Type 1 Beetle 180hp 2276 |
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