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03-10-2017, 02:46 PM
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'66 to '70 Pontiac Engine Blue?
Has anyone ever attempted to custom mix the light metallic blue with just a tad of green or yellow to simulate every original 40~50 year old engine I've ever seen? Actually, I remember the engine being that color on my first which was only 12 years old at the time.
Stupid question or do you guys know what I mean? I'm looking for that 'look' on my '66 because I'm wanting to give it a slight survivor look. I'm assembling a '66 WT code 389 for it and I'd love to paint it the color that's on it now.
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia Last edited by Greg Reid; 03-10-2017 at 02:58 PM. |
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03-10-2017, 02:57 PM
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I don't understand, if showing the car you want pristine new looking paint, one you fire the motor any paint is going to change some within 2 hours run time anyway so why pre-tint it?
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03-10-2017, 03:04 PM
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That's not what I'm talking about. If you look at an original 60s Pontiac engine that has traces of the original paint, it looks quite a bit different than the blue that we put on our engines today.
The closest I've seen to it is on various pieces of industrial equipment. I can't believe I'm the only one that has seen the difference. I may post a photo later if I haven't already cleaned it all off.
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03-10-2017, 03:08 PM
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I know what you mean by how the old paint looks, so your looking to match old paint on a block or heads with new paint so that the motor shows no signs of being apart?
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03-10-2017, 03:25 PM
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That's pretty close to what I'm talking about except that I will paint the entire engine. I suppose it could be called a 'fake patina'. Yeah, fake patina.
It may be a DUMB idea but I would like to try it. I thoroughly cleaned my valley pan and it showed the color difference very well..except by the time I got the inside clean, I had lost all of the original paint through the cleaning process.
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia Last edited by Greg Reid; 03-10-2017 at 03:30 PM. |
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03-10-2017, 04:12 PM
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Rattle can clear enamel supposedly yellows very quickly under engine heat,
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03-10-2017, 04:31 PM
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^^ Took me a second to catch on but yeah...that's an idea.
I may try a spot of clear on my present engine and drive it a while. See what it looks like.
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03-10-2017, 04:55 PM
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Greg, I know what you are talking about. This paint today is not the same stuff but maybe you can blame that on EPA changes. Maybe it could've turned a little greenish from a chemical reaction when heated???
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03-10-2017, 05:04 PM
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What color was the rattle can hammered tone paint someone mentioned?
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03-10-2017, 05:51 PM
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Rustoleum Hammered 7212 Light Blue was mentioned in some post as a possible candidate for 66 Blue engine paint, I believe the poster did an intake. I have done a couple of brackets and to my eye it is a pretty good match. Don't know about the "aging" aspect of it at this point.
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03-10-2017, 06:31 PM
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03-10-2017, 07:00 PM
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i love that burnt pontiac blue/green color id take an original painted part to a paint shop and they'd mix it up and put it in a can as well
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#13
03-10-2017, 11:02 PM
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30 years ago we used the RM paint codes for the original engine colors of both the earlier pastel blue and the later blue metallic and had them mixed in both Dupont and Martin Senor Synthol Enamel. Sorry to tell ya but they pretty well matched what is available in the spray cans today.
I do understand the color you are talking about. Probably the difference is that the factory just put enough paint on the engine to cover the bare iron, probably not much more than one thin coat. What we remember was the bare iron bleeding back through the paint, giving it a yellowish look. Today when we restore an engine we spray on many, many coats of thick paint. I don't know what type of paint is in the spray cans, but original it was synthol enamel. Spraying just a light, thin coat on the engine might give you the color you're looking for after you drive it a while; and then maybe not.
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03-11-2017, 12:09 AM
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03-11-2017, 01:16 AM
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03-11-2017, 08:51 PM
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I just came back to eat a little crow. I went through all the parts off this '66 engine that had any paint left and I believe the damper has only the original paint on it....and I have to admit that Dupli-Color DE1616 is pretty doggone close.
I think Jerry is on to something and I thought the same thing earlier...they put it on thin at the factory. That and a few years may give the more exposed and hotter areas like the heads, block and intake a greenish tint. Several of us are thinking along the same lines I guess because I also thought about the possible changes over the years in the chemical makeup of the paint..as someone above mentioned also. But again, the Dupli-Color looks pretty close. I'm going to play with some of Paul's Rustoleum also. Looks close..   
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia Last edited by Greg Reid; 03-11-2017 at 08:58 PM. |
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03-12-2017, 09:21 PM
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You're a good man Greg.
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03-12-2017, 11:42 PM
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I just like Crow meat.
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03-13-2017, 06:54 AM
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03-13-2017, 12:15 PM
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Most of the larger pieces are served at home...lol
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