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Rust bucket Bird
I recently restarted on my 68 Firebird Project
And since I knew it had some rust problems I was going to start by tearing it down and getting it blasted I thought just the floor was rusty but man just about every panel has issues So far the rockers look decent but that's about it Has anyone else felt like they were going to completely have to rebuild the metal work on their cars? Any advice?
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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Here's some context:
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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The previous owner "repaired" it by riveting .125" sheet....
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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She's a little crusty, but definitely not the worst I've seen.
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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Captainofiron...Just work at it one panel or area at a time. I WISH my car had been that solid when I started. 67 Tempest...inner and outer rockers, full floor, full trunk, full quarters, dropdowns, tail panel....I think you get it. Carry on and good luck.
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Thanks guys for the responses, it's just nerve-wracking to take something off and everytime see a giant hole or be able to poke your finger through what was supposed to be steel
Hopefully I'll be able to get it to the blaster early January
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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I’m sure I’m in the minority- but does the car have sentimental value? I’ve restored several cars I shouldn’t have because of who owned them. It was worth it to me. Make sure it’s worth it to you.
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Looking over the parts catalog I'm amazed at how many replacement parts you can get now. You but basically buy a brand new unibody
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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I know how you feel. My '68 needed an entire roof plus sail panels and that's on top of all the normal stuff that most of them need...
I had no clue until I decided to sand the primer off. The PO had used expanding foam in all the roof rust holes, sanded it and primed it. Looked great until you scratched the surface. The happy ending is that I got over the shock and just sucked it up and repaired it with donor metal.
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You’re staying active and using your hands, which is as rewarding as restoring a car.
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Two 1975 455 Grandvilles & '79 455 Trans Am ‘69 Camaro SS 396/375 (owned since ‘88) ‘22 Toyota Sequoia V8 ‘23 Lexus LS500 awd ‘95 Ford F-super duty 4wd 7.3 p-stroke & countless Jeeps & off road vehicles. |
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I still have my first car (which was my dads so I suggest you keep going. It’s one of those things you can never get back
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I've seen worse brought back. Go for it!
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be a simple...kinda man. |
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Good luck with your project.
If you decide it's too bad, I have a 68 Firebird project in AL for sale. Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk
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If you’ve got the resources, both in terms of money, time and also have a good bodyman or have those skills yourself, go for it. These cars need to be fixed and consider it your task to save another one from the scrap heap. When it’s done not only will you be proud of what you’ve accomplished but you’ll have the pride of knowing that your work will most likely be here being enjoyed by someone long after you’ve gone.
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Save yo Confederate money, boys, the South is gonna do it again! Pecosbill Last edited by Stuart; 12-27-2020 at 12:57 PM. |
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All it takes to turn off a consumer is having to replace an out of warranty battery pack ($7-10k) Until I see big companies like Honda and Toyota taking EVs seriously then I'll know gas engines days are numbered
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires Last edited by Stuart; 12-27-2020 at 12:57 PM. |
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To answer your question: Has anyone else felt like they were going to completely have to rebuild the metal work on their cars? Oh yes! When finished, my 67 GTO project will be mostly replacement sheetmetal. The deeper I get into it, the more rust I find. (Tried include a pic but couldn't figure it out.) I'm in the process of replacing the rear LH inner sail panel to roof support as well as the rear roof support and window channel. I've already replaced the complete firewall/cowl section, floor pan and toe boards. The only original reusable parts are the doors, deck lid, roof and LH front fender. It's a lot of work but I'm learning a lot and really enjoying it. I recently restored a 79 Trans Am that had some rust issues but not like this.
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Devil's advocate:
How much is your time, sweat and skill? When added up this is not a bad deal at all: http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com...irebird-coupe/ |
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I guess we will see once the media blast is done how much is truly left
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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I would be mad if I ordered a68 Firebird and that showed up.
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Yeah I saw that too.
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- Mike '69 Firebird 400 - Goldenrod Yellow, 455 +.060, '6s-7' heads, Comp Cam 276AH-10 (51-309-4), TH400, Ford 9-inch w/3.08, 800cfm Q-jet, Stock Intake, Hooker Headers, Flowmasters '68 Coronet 500 Convertible - Medium Gold Metallic, stock 318 +100,000 miles |
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