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Can I tell you bout my #'s matching engine?
Hey! I have a #'s matching engine!
Wanna see it? Go ahead, click on the pics! I'm going tell everybody! I'm going tell people I don't even know, who don't even care! I'm going to discuss it, elaborate on it and talk about it till I'm blue in the face and they're red! Explain how rare and desirable it is, how I built it myself and on and on... eventually provoking violence leading me to possibly stop. Obviously I'll just turn to the next poor bast-, er uh, person. But I just wanted to share it with you guys first cuz I know of your great interest. Have I told you about my #'s matching engine? Have you seen my pics? ok ok I'll STO00oooppp!!! Fine!... I'll tell someone else....... Edit: I just stumbled across a block that had the same date code as my heads, anyone else ever do that? Now I need a intake dated L197 .... Frank
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Poncho Huggen, Gear Snatchen, Posi Piro. Last edited by 4zpeed; 11-10-2017 at 11:52 AM. |
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What car does it match.
I don't see an iron intake or chrome covers.
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Bull Nose Formula-461, 6x-4, Q-jet, HEI, TH400, 8.5 3.08, superslowjunk |
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Matching Intake Manifold? Distributor? Carb? Water pump? Fuel pump?
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1968 Firebird 400 RAII M21, 3.31 12 bolt, Mayfair Maize. 1977 Trans Am W72 400, TH350, 3.23 T Top Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. Bill Nye. |
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cool allen key spark plugs. This tread needs more pics.
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1979 Firebird Trans Am 301/4spd (Now 428) 1977 Firebird Formula 400/Auto 2007 Grand Prix GXP 5.3L |
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It may be a date matching block and heads, but the main numbers aren't shown?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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That's all it is, I just happened to notice it.
Can I still say I have a matching #'s engine? Frank
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Poncho Huggen, Gear Snatchen, Posi Piro. |
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It’s all for nothing if you don’t have the right color chalk for the inspection marks - or know that the guy who checked the rear end at Kansas City in ‘65 was left handed.
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1965 Pontiac LeMans. M21, 3.73 in a 12 bolt, Kauffman 461. |
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Yes, and you have to know what time your car was made cause if it was close to a bathroom break, the marks were more illegible.
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Princess Lea to Han Solo "We can reward you with more money than you can imagine"
Han Solo " I don't know .... I can imagine an awful lot" That has no bearing on the topic, and from my house, your entire engine appears to be matching numbers everything |
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Hey, that looks like a numbers matching engine!
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65 Tempest, 400, TH400 86 Fiero SE 2.8 |
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All the numbers do not have to match. LOL.
Example...Block Jan. 15, 1969, Heads, Jan. 22, Distributor, Jan. 8, Water pump, Dec. 15, 68 and so on. As long as the dates are a week or so up to 3 months before your car's build date, you have a numbers matching engine...especially if the last 6 digits of the VIN match the numbers on your block but this is not always the case, 71 455 H.O. is just one example. |
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It's not numbers matching if the partial VIN doesn't match. It can be date correct and/or code correct, but without that VIN it's not numbers matching.
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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There are some years and models, where the numbers on the block do not match the VIN.
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So there is a partial VIN on the block but it doesn't match the VIN on the car and that's the way it came from the factory, and it was common on all of the 455 HO cars in '71? Someone screwed up on the assembly line...
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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I have a matching numbers engine in my '68.... Partial VIN and EUN match the billing history and dash VIN...However, block was cast 7 MONTHS before the car was built.
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia |
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I have a numbers matching engine, a 455 and on the side of the block the 5s match perfectly.
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dataway = "from my house, your entire engine appears to be matching numbers everything"
Thanks data that's what I was counting on. johnta1 = We would be interested in more info on your (1) matching number engine. Thanks for pointing that out John. I was worried, er uh I mean wondering if you wee going to ask. Ok, well, it's pretty simple, It's a bit heavy for the size and seems to be the wrong color blue. It has the spark plug option delete at present, along with the carb, water, fuel, oil pump etc. etc. These option deletes were not available till I got hold of it, I'll have to work on that. As for the performance, lets just say it doesn't miss, and hasn't used a drop of gas. MarkS57 = Hey, that looks like a numbers matching engine! Thanks Mark, that's awful gracious considering you obviously realize I'm full a chit. 71 T/A = especially if the last 6 digits of the VIN match Thanks 71 T/A but the vin doesn't match, this is a case of I wish I had a #'s matching engine, thought I'd have some fun since the block and heads are (day) coded. Heads from the block pictured above are dated L267, intake date is L167. The L197 heads on the block above were on a 71 400YX in the car when I got it, they are most likely original to the car. That was about the only original thing left of the driveline. Makes one appreciate the term #'s matching engine, not that mine is of course. Or is it... Frank
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But...
Is it matching numbers???!!!
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