[Maximum Race Engines]

As of October 1st, all new IA2 engine blocks will feature the main caps registered in the pan rails. They will no longer incorporate dowel pins. The pan rails have been raised .125" in order to register the main caps, which will be a better, stronger way to help minimize any main cap movement as much as possible, especially with high rpm/ high horsepower combinations. By doing this, the blocks will now need a longer oil pump drive, which will be included in the block hardware kit that is being sold by ALLPONTIAC, Spotts Performance, Maximum Race Engines, and anyone else that will be selling the block.
To those that do not know by now, each block now incorporates screw in style freeze plugs. These screw in type plugs will also be included in the same hardware kit. The block hardware kit will include everything needed to prep the IA2 block.

Joe Pontiac
Maximum Race Engines
www.maximumraceengines.com
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[Mo]

Bob, I think if your into N/A motors then yes you could use a better head. However, the trend appears to be power adders. As a person in the process of building a turbocharged motor my concern is not head flow but rather keeping the bottom end together. I would buy an Allpontiac.com block in a heartbeat, its a no brainer, however the thought of my $400 cast crank taking out my $2995 block when I'm making 1200HP at a significant RPM is enough to keep anyone awake at night. I think more guys would spend the extra money on your block if they new a good crank was available other than a billet. JMHO

[Robert C.]

Aluminum blocks do weigh in around 1/2 of a cast iron block 120 lbs. You still have cast iron cylinder sleeves, steel main caps, ARP Main cap bolts; steel cam bearings and bronze lifter guides. A IA II weighs in around the same as a Hard Block filled 455 with Steel main caps and lifter bore brace @245 lbs.

[Mo]

Bob, awesome job on those blocks, a real work of art. Now that we have all these great blocks and heads is there any chance of an AllPontiac.com forged crank? We really need on to fill the gap between cast and billet. Thanks

[Tom McQueen]

The aluminum block will save you ~80 pounds over a factory iron block and ~120 pounds over a standard deck IA iron block.

[Mo]

When will the "new and improved" IA2 blocks be avaialble. Any ideas on price of the aluminum block? Thanks

[10second70GP]

hey can i emailed you about doing a IA2 SHORTBLOCK BUT YOU HAVEN'T REPLIED TO MY EMAIL ?

[10second70GP]

DAMNIT I MEAN KEN

[crossbreed455]

they are like a bbc caps. the pan rail is .125 lower if block is upright.


mike m.

[chiefbigb]

I would say this block is probably as good as it could get right now.Are the roller cam bearings ready to install a option currently?I would bet once Bob and Frank are content with the blocks and some of the investment comes back,the next project will be done the same way Correctly!!Bob told me a while back he would do it right or not at all.Thanks for your efforts and save one for me when the house is done.Brian

[Mo]

Thanks Bob. I'll have to stop by Spotts and check it out!

[Junkyard Dog]

Gee, I hate to get this post off topic or anything, but how much weight does an aluminum block save?

[Robert C.]

Mo, Thanks.

QuoteNow that we have all these great blocks and heads is there any chance of an AllPontiac.com forged crank? We really need on to fill the gap between cast and billet.)

Heads? What head is a great head? I know of no head out there for a Pontiac that is a great head. YET We are looking at cranks and heads too. We will make sure that we follow thru and will not lead people on as to how good they are or we will have them next week like others have done.

[DiamondJim]

Ok, Here is what I know about Butler's new Aluminum block. according to this article it saves 125lbs over the IA. HOWEVER, a stock,bare, cast iron 455 block only weighs 185 lbs, so it looks like it saves 60lbs.Aluminum Block -JimT

[ventura7211]

LOL!, Ken. Hey Tom I think:

[Tom Vaught]

Quote:

"Heads? What head is a great head? I know of no head out there for a Pontiac that is a great head. YET"

What would you call a great head? 375 cfm at 28"?
425 cfm at 28"? A 500 cfm head?

A buddy of mine created a 450 cfm pontiac head about
10 years ago from a billet. It had a SB-2 style port
spacing configuration but used a very good (at the time) BB Chebby Dart port with a 2.19 intake valve.

Two issues with the head were, at that time, the lack of an intake manifold (custom built reqd) and the shaft
valvetrain set-up.

Today a shaft set-up could be created to work with the
Intake/Exhaust pattern and the IA-2 block would be able
to handle the required bore size increase.

It would probably be an alcohol head though due to being a billet.

Let me know if you need more info when you want to build a BIG head.

Tom V.

[Maximum Race Engines]

Ken-
Didn't forget about you . Just wasn't sure, and it is not my place to mention you without knowing your involvement. Besides, I figured you would jump in and make it known anyway..Just letting you get some air time.
By the way, shouldn't your phrase say...

"One of your ALLPONTIAC.com block distributors..." lol

Joe Pontiac
Maximum Race Engines
www.maximumraceengines.com
[email protected]

[Tom Vaught]

I can see the benefits of the outer edge of cap register for locating the cap. Several different production blocks have come that way. My concern would be the cap wanting to pull inward under high leads like a rod cap does. Maybe this is not an issue as the main caps are so much larger (stronger), made from
better steel, and the crank wanting to "orbit" around the whole
main cap under high rpm conditions vs the rod cap seeing high inertial (tension) loads at the same rpm.

On the race blocks Jimmy Keen ran (Production Race blocks from Ford) we machined registers in the block webbing for each main and had custom caps made with "tangs" vs dowel pins/ outside
registry like is being reported. NO fretting, no block issues after that on the Keen stuff.

Hope it works well. Some one is thinking.

Tom V.

[Tom Vaught]

Quote:

Hey Tom. At least everytime someone posts about turbos or superchargers I don't go around tell ing them who I know, who I have know in the past, what I know and how smart I am workin for Ford.
Maybe you should look in your own back yard before ya post about someone's EGO. LOL.

The world doesn't revolve around anyone. Just try and help people without Be littling them.

That's twice now.

9scond70GP; Have had a lot of stuff happen over the last 2 months with weather, servers and no electric for days at a time to get mail on the net. Currently without power at the house going on 24 hrs now and don't know when it will be back. Got hit hard again at the house.”

“LOL!, Ken. Hey Tom I think: ”


First off, as you can see Ken is having a bad day/days/week/ month with all of the bad weather. He had damage to his house/vehicle I believe and has no power with another storm on the way. How can you be in a “sparring mood” without being testy with that kind of stuff going on.

The original statement was meant as a joke with the world revolving around Ken (as in Hurricanes revolving around Ken’s address like the Black Cloud that used to follow the guy around on a sunny day). As far as the ego goes, Ken and I are both Type A people.
Put it on the table and measure kind of guys. Why he and I get along so well off the board.

What he says it true though, all knowledge comes from what you have read, what you have seen, what you have done, who you know, what they know, your racing experience
in one or several types of racing, (and what it takes to win in each one), etc. I am fortunate to have had access to many types of racing, access to smart people inside and outside the industry, and be paid by a large corporation to do boosting work. (I will not
mention the name as it offends George to mention the brand x company on a PONTIAC board.

As far as “be littleing” people, I have lots of people send me e-mails, I try and answer each one accurately, to the best of my abilities. On this board, I tend to be more kidding
as I know a number of the people on the board now personally. If I have “be littled” anyone I am sorry for that and did not do it knowingly. (If the “be littling” was from the response I made on the 6 second mod motor where I asked Brian to post his BS meter, I
guess I am at fault).

George, As far as Ken being your HERO, I can understand that as Kenny is a big man
compared to you. I had some jabs with him before you started posting and he and I met
face to face and worked them out. You on the other hand just like to hide behind the computer and take shots at me when you can by tagging on to others posts. Obviously
you are not a Type A person.


Ventura7211,

You posted a cute response.

Kenny would never “Bitch Slap” anyone as he is too much of a man to use an open hand
on someone. Kenny is more of the shot to the belly type of a guy. You can post all the
funny deals you want and people will laugh but that will not affect the respect I have for Ken, or Ray, or Jack, or Brian, etc, etc. OK KEN I APOLOGIZE! What was the first one?

Tom V.

[Tom McQueen]

" We plan to pour alum. blocks in the fall if there is a demand. We need to have 15 deposits to make it worth our time to do this. We have a list of people that we will start to call on soon that want an aluminum product. You can trust that we will put the same quality in that product as we are doing in the IA II block. We hope to have one soon."

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You need 14 more. Im in.