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The facts:
69 GTO Matching numbers 400 with Comp Camps 260 Magnum (212, 212 at 50, 440/440 lift), Q-jet, ram air exhaust manifolds, 2.5" exhaust system, stock distributor with Pertronix Turbo 400, Holeshot 2000 converter 3.55 gears How can I get better than the 10 mpg or so I get? I may switch the gears to 3.08. Anything else I could do? |
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While you change to the 3.08 make sure you take up the advice to swap the th400 for the tr2004r overdrive trans , due to the shorter first and sec gear, your car with the 3.08 will acselerate as fast as a th400 with a 3.73 rear ratio . 3e is 1on1, 4 is 0.67 , so you have your stoplight funn AND you highway crusing milage and top end speed with it , nouw ask yourself wat will be the smart thing to do!!!!
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and i really dont measure the gas milage i measure how much fun i get out of a tank
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If you go back to a mild camshaft grind
and install the higher rear end ratio you should be able to get 16 miles per gallon out of it. The only other thing that would help is transplanting an OHC 6 cylinder engine or trading it in on a Toyota. |
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Not to sound TOO smart-ass, but inquiring minds want to know--what mileage does your 10-second Goat get, Bob W48? Better than the 10 mpg 71 T/A gets?
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HPP had an article (Jan 2004) on the installation of Crane's adjustable vacuum advance, in which they picked up 1.5 mpg.
The article says engine modifications, and today's fuels, can cause the stock advance canister to not work optimally, or not at all, so you are not obtaining the optimal spark lead. Summit sells Crane kit 99601-1. Its inexpensive and may make your car run better anyway, so its worth a try. I bought the kit, but have not put it on yet. |
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Gas tank is new. There are no fuel leaks. 3.55 gears need to go.
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Shadowjack if you look at my original post I said it gets 14mpg on the highway. I have no idea what it gets around town but its not good.
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My Goat runs high 10's and with OD can cruise at 2000 rpm on the highway. Mr. Nobs how about yours?
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dont drive it, THESE are muscle cars designed to go fast, dont turn too much & hopefully stop.
GM wasnt looking for gas milage, only BEATING the competition. just my opinion
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1969 Early 01D JUDGE #s MATCH RA III 4 Spd (Concours Restored) 1969 PRO STREET GTO 2500 lbs. ALL ALUMINUM 505 1969 RARE All Glass GTO (FOR SALE) YOU NEED THIS AC Cobra Kit Car 521 670 HP/715 Trq LOOKING FOR V PARTS !!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I have a 3.23 gear, continental 2200 stall converter, Turbo 400 transed '68 GTO. I get 10 mpg in town, 15 on the highway.
The best way to get better mileage than you're getting now is pretty basic. Fresh tune; light right foot. Get the distributor checked to make sure the mechanical and vacuum advance are in good working order. The electronic conversion is a good way to go; less tune ups and more reliability. I've used the Mallory Unilite conversion with good success. You can gain a bit by bumping the initial timing up two or three degrees. |
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Kind of a oxymoron. MPG and GTO. Try this, push it around, you'll get great mileage with it that way.
Seriously, get a overdrive and a really tall gear. Good luck.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shadowjack:
Let's see, a TH400 has a low of 2.42, so the overall low in front of a 3.73 is 9.03, while a TH2004R will have an overall low of 10.25 with a final of 2.5, but one with a 3.08 rear will have a low ratio of 8.47 and a final ratio of 2.06, right? Figuring on spending most of the time in third or OD, it sounds like it would be more fun to swap the trans and leave the rear alone! A lot more responsive. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>............Eather way 3.08 / 3.55 its a win win situation . i got 3.42 with the od trans . due to the high perf engine , i will have serius traktion problems as first and sec gear will act like 4.11 / 4.56 . thing is he didnt askt for FUNN ,but more mpg!! , but yes your right trany swap alone will dubbel the funn lololol |
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Man, I have the TH400 and Iam changing my 2.93 Rear to a 3.55 posi as we speak...costing me $900...did I make a mistake? I can still change my mind.
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All you have to do is recalibrate your odometer!
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Pontiac6269,
You have 2.73 gears while my GTO runs 3.55s. There's the difference. I think I'll be swapping to 3.08s as that's the lowest I can go with my 12 bolt's 3 series carrier. |
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The facts:
69 GTO Matching numbers 400 with Comp Camps 260 Magnum (212, 212 at 50, 440/440 lift), Q-jet, ram air exhaust manifolds, 2.5" exhaust system, stock distributor with Pertronix Turbo 400, Holeshot 2000 converter 3.55 gears How can I get better than the 10 mpg or so I get? I may switch the gears to 3.08. Anything else I could do? |
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a gto is not about gas milage,sell or trade it for a bug
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home of the never ending list of pontiacs 2 69 gto converts 1 69 gto htp auto trans 1 69 gto 4 speed 1 69 gto judge 1 75 ta 1 79 formula 1 80 formula 1 81 ta 1 89 formula 1 96 ta 1 66 mustang 1 84 mustang 1 89 25th anniv mustang convert [email protected]
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If you still have the stock convertor it will help around town but at highway speeds the other convertor will be above the stall speed anyway.
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Come on:
G - Gas T - Tires O - Oil They use it up.
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