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I'm hoping I'm getting to the end of the long odyssey I have endured with my '64 GTO. I took it apart in 2000 to freshen it up only to find a cracked block. I won't go over all of the history here, but I'm basically on the second version of my fourth engine since then. I still have some work to do on an unstable idle, but it is running great. It now has 85 miles on this incarnation with no engine complications. It already had 200 miles on it when I had to take it back apart for an oil leak. I had a friend over helping me a bit today, so I took him for a ride when it was time for a quick road test. Before we went out I did a quick test on the nitrous and gas solenoids to make sure they opened and closed properly. After driving around for awhile I decided to give it a short blast (the first time since 2000). I was probably rolling about 30 mph when I hit it in first. The tires started spinning pretty quickly, so I shifted to second where the tire spin continued. I only took it to about 4500 where the cam starts really waking up. MAN IT FELT GOOD. I did have to do a bit of steering in second gear as the car started sliding to the right. I can't wait to have all of the bugs worked out so I can really ring it out. It is not a strip car anymore, so I'm not sure I will ever take it to the track. That's why I built my Tempest, so I wouldn't keep breaking the GTO. You can't really tell by the seat of the pants, but it felt like it was better than it used to be when it ran 10.80 at 129.31. The car is all old school. The current rear tires are 275/60-15 M/T Street Radials. I upped the weight of the flywheel from 15 pounds to 22 pounds hoping that it would not spin the tires from a first gear roll. It looks like I wasn't as successful as I had hoped. Details below.
400 block bored 0.030" with a forged 4"stroke crank Carrillo rods and Ross pistons HR cam, 242/248 at 0.050" with about 0.600 lift with the 1.65 rockers Heads are 670 (1967 GTO) with tall valves and 1.65 Crower SS roller rockers CR = 9.6:1 Stepped 4-tube headers, 1 7/8' - 2" 1966 tri-power nitrous plates under all 3 carbs. Boost is about 150-165 HP M-22 4-spd, 4.33:1 12-bolt posi rear "May the torque be with you" |
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nice list of internals!Tom
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Street racing !!! At your age ??!! Wish I'd been along for the ride.
Jim
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65 Catalina sedan. Allen Thomas Performance 495. KRE Heads at 310cfm ported by SD Performance, ProSystems Dominator carb on ported Victor intake, P-Dude custom grind hydraulic roller, MSD ignition, 3.50 Moser/Ford rear. F-Glass front bumper by son Rob, rear by the old man and joint effort for trunk lid. 3950# w/driver. Best of 9.5761/139 on 175 shot, 6.01 /114 in 1/8. |
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nice, all you need now is some steelies and dog dish caps for some stealth action.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Tri power, 4speed, barn find 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds Factory stock oval track car |
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Adopt me!
Congrats! and looks like big fun.
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Oh my that is just gorgeous,i would leave the hood off so everyone can see those three shiny lids.
Like old school stuff and it sounds like its getting closer to the right tune. Drive it like you hate it........ |
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Congtrats! that really sounds like a killer ride and is beautiful to boot. Is that an SD cam?
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird, 400/461, 290 Eddy D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '69 LeMans Vert, XS 350, #47 heads, TH400, 10 Bolt 3.23 gears, work in progress ‘66 Lemans, 455, 310 KRE D-Ports, HR 236/245, TH400, GV OD, 12 bolt 3.73 gears - see it here: https://youtu.be/RP_s1wJKm_Y?si=K0NZxoTyaGcj8Dcb |
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No, it is a Comp grind sold by the Butlers.
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Thanks for the ride along Jim that was a nice little ride you guys had.
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Conrad 79 Trans AM 406 #12 heads Torker II intake Crower 60210 750 holley vac. sec. T400 3500 Stall 3:73:1 rear. ECMTTFMFers. IHTTFMFers.
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Just when I think I want to keep my 64 tempest with the stock 326 and nice 20MPG a thread like this comes along and leaves me droolling.
Hope I grow up to be as cool as you instead of stick in the mud. |
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Good to hear, hopefully you will have fun with it and stay away from mr. police man, LOL. Now u just need one of the kids or grand kids to video grampa havin fun. LOL.
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Thanks for posting , OMT. You were burning rubber in that GTO when I was sitting in my Murray Fireball pedal car, pretending to. It's very nice that some things never loose their appeal. I remember when I was a young mechanic, 21, and I asked an "old" guy who was 27 if burning rubber ever got old (he had a '71 Z-28 with 4.10's and a 4 speed, and I had my GTO's), and he shouted at me: "IT NEVER GETS OLD!". I thought he was crazy, that people just grow out of it. I was, thankfully, WRONG. Keep up the great work and keep us posted!!!
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Nothing like a GTO with a 4 speed and some deep gears. It is nice when you can make a blast pass after a long hibernation. 20 some years ago I had a 67 GTO with a 400HO, 4 speed and 4.33's That car was an absolute handful but I loved it. Thanks for sharing OMT!
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Jim Glad to hear you've gotten the GTO out again! 4 sopeed cars are a BLAST to drive!
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so many pontiacs, so little time.................. moderator is a glorified word for an unappreciated prick.................. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein "There is no such thing as a good tax." "We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." - Winston Churchill |
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So nice!!!! Kind of an oddball question, though. How did you get your hood hinges down and secured like that?
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Let me have a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. Pepper and make it fast---I'm in a goddamn hurry! - Mike 1967 GTO |
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I pushed the hinges down manually and then tie wrapped them. Hopefully the tie wraps hold up for awhile. I don't want to put the hood on until I'm done working on a few things.
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Very cool Mr. Taylor! Don't you just love churning through a "Rock Crusher". I know I like mine.
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Uneasyrider “To find yourself, think for yourself.” ― Socrates “The unexamined life is not worth living.” ― Socrates “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” ― Plato |
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I went to the rock crusher from an M-20 for two reasons: I had way too much torque multiplication on the starting line; and I was breaking the M-20's. However, I did also break the input shaft and first gear on a fine splined M-22. That's when I decided to quit racing the GTO.
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Quote:
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Uneasyrider “To find yourself, think for yourself.” ― Socrates “The unexamined life is not worth living.” ― Socrates “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” ― Plato |
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Congrats Jim! Such a cool ride
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James 1970 Trans Am Spotts Built 484" IA2, Highports, EFI Northwind, E85 Holley Terminator X sequential EFI fabrication and suspension by https://www.funkhouserracecars.com/ |
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