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Old 05-18-2005, 08:26 AM
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This is kind of a dumb question. I am currently running a stock Q-jet on my fairly stock 400. I have access to a 750 Edelbrock. Would the Edelbrock make more power then the Q-jet. Thanks

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Old 05-18-2005, 08:26 AM
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This is kind of a dumb question. I am currently running a stock Q-jet on my fairly stock 400. I have access to a 750 Edelbrock. Would the Edelbrock make more power then the Q-jet. Thanks

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Old 05-18-2005, 08:46 AM
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Your Qjet is a 750 also. Unless it is a later model, then it is an 800. I'd keep the qjet.

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Old 05-19-2005, 06:09 PM
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I started out with the performer intake and the Edelbrock performer 750 carb. The carb. ran fine until I got on it. It seemed the secondarys would not open til I got the RPM's up to 3500. Also, when they did open, it was a very smooth transition. Not what I am looking for in a muscle car. I swithced to the Q-Jet 750, and after some minor adjustments it works great. If I get on it the secondarys will open right off the line. You can hear it and you can feel it. Just my opinion, and my experience.

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Old 05-20-2005, 04:59 AM
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We obtained a nearly new Edelbrock 750 AFB clone here for testing. After pissing with that thing for weeks we determined that they are NOT a good choice for serious high performance work. Very easy to recalibrate, but the lack of adjustment to the secondary airflap is a "showstopper". They must be set up for whimpy SBC engines because our 455 test engine whipped the flap open so quick it would "stumble/hesitate/bog" no matter how we jetted it. Even so, idle quality was good, off idle and cruise very good, and strong full throttle power once you got past the big "dead spot". Aside from adding or removing weight from the secondary airflap I wouldn't know how to fine tune one for any particular application? With the q-jet it's a matter of seconds to adjust the tension spring for the secondary airflap and secondary metering changes can be made about as quickly without taking the carb apart.

I noticed that Edelbrock came out with the "Thunder Series", AVS design units. I'm certain this move was prompted by complaints about their AFB clones.....Cliff

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Old 05-20-2005, 05:15 AM
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Yup, I seconfd that. I have a Edel 750 on my 455 w 041 cam. Not impressed acctually. I had this same carb on my SBC in my truck years ago, seemed way more suited to the SBC. I never even did any tuning on it in my truck. On the 455, I have tinkered with it for way to long. It's coming off this morning acctually, been working all week preppin a Q jet

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Old 05-20-2005, 05:22 AM
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Actually edelbrock seems to have brought out the the AVS in defiance of history. Carter had several aftermarket high performance AVS carbs available in the early '70's. No where near the performance of the AFB and Carter couldn't give the things away. Of course, they had the TQ going by then and it did a MUCH better job than either the AVS or even the AFB. The TQ is spread-bore based, like the Q-Jet and available up to 1000 CFM.

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Old 05-20-2005, 05:42 AM
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Jon,
The 'revived' AVS that E'brock is now selling as the "Thunder Series" is in fact an AFB lower section with an AVS top. It has secondary venturiis, not discharge tubes like the original AVS. So I guess they picked the best attributes of both carbs & combined into one.
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As far as the original question goes, I have the E'brock 800 CFM AFB & am more than happy with it. Never had a flat spot. I have a 455, Turbo 350 with manual valve body. I can stomp on it at 15mph in 'D' & it just powers ahead. And that is with a 3.08 axle!

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Old 05-20-2005, 06:10 AM
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The Edel 750's are manual secondaries. There is a metal rod on passenger side that you can bend to make the secondaries come in earlier or later. So you can adjust it. I had the dead spot/ bog too, but by making them come in later it helped a lot. Just my 2 cents.

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