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Old 01-05-2008, 11:28 AM
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Bob, I heard you like sledding? ever go up tp the U.P.?

I do hope to rip the 4-speed but after Spearfish, Norwalk and or Dayton. Otherwise I should sell both and start all over?

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:11 PM
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I'm gettig ready to take my SD engine in for service, and in the interest of getting it back in a more correct state, I have a few questions for the Superdutyoligist on this site. When I bought the car in 1991 it had a fresh engine. Of course, it was painted the wrong color. Over the years, I have learned of some other areas that are not correct, mostly relating to the engine. Thus, I need your help! 1. Did the SD have a cast iron or aluminun "gooseneck" on top of the intake manifold? Mine is cast iron. 2. Does the water pump, where the fan clutch mounts, have studs with nuts & lock washers, or bolts with lock washers? 3. The Felpro gaskets (stamped 90123) I have for the intake manifold have a very large crossover heat riser opening that doesn't match the manifold. However, it has the larger size openings that do match up with the SD manifold port openings. Also these gaskets do not appear to have the protruding area near the front that matches the factory original gaskets. Are these gaskets available? If so from who? Felpro? Thanks in advance!

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Old 01-05-2008, 09:50 PM
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The SD engine paint is: Dupont Centari #31026 AM Medium Blue, aluminum, bolts and washers, review link below regarding gaskets.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=539817

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Old 01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
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1. Did the SD have a cast iron or aluminun "gooseneck" on top of the intake manifold? Mine is cast iron. 2. Does the water pump, where the fan clutch mounts, have studs with nuts & lock washers, or bolts with lock washers? 3. The Felpro gaskets (stamped 90123) I have for the intake manifold have a very large crossover heat riser opening that doesn't match the manifold. However, it has the larger size openings that do match up with the SD manifold port openings. Also these gaskets do not appear to have the protruding area near the front that matches the factory original gaskets. Are these gaskets available? If so from who? Felpro? Thanks in advance!
1. Thermostat housing is aluminum

2. Fan clutch mounts on studs

3. 90123 gasket will not work on SD455, exhaust crossover opening is too large

Correct appearing gasket is not available for SD455, you can follow my suggestion in the above referenced post for how to make a correct appearing gasket from the MS15174 gasket.

The best matching engine paint I have found is sold by OEM paints. The color is called Slate Blue. It is good quality paint. One can will cover a complete engine.

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Old 01-05-2008, 10:26 PM
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Glen:

I agree with toomanybirds on this one.

If you had a fixed fan like a non A/C car then it would mount with the spacer and long bolts with lock washers. Otherwise studs with nuts and washers.

Brew: I think you are looking at fixed fans not viscous coupled fans like an A/C car would have.

I used to snowmobile in the UP all the time but more on the east end. Not much further west than Munising. I sold my sled last year due to lack of use. If I decide to go again it's cheaper to rent for the weekend than own one.

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Old 01-05-2008, 10:37 PM
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Thank you, too many birds, I appreciate the quick response. Somewhere along the line the thermostat housing must have been changed to the cast iron one, luckily I have an aluminun one in good condition. The water pump studs are an easy fix. I'm hoping the shop where I'm taking the engine will have a suitable intake manifold gasket. I got the proper color engine paint from Scott Tieman a while back. Could you clarify what you mean by "in the above referenced post"? I'm not seeing that on your post. Thanks again. There will be more questions soon.

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Old 01-05-2008, 10:47 PM
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Glen:

I agree with toomanybirds on this one.

If you had a fixed fan like a non A/C car then it would mount with the spacer and long bolts with lock washers. Otherwise studs with nuts and washers.

Brew: I think you are looking at fixed fans not viscous coupled fans like an A/C car would have.

I used to snowmobile in the UP all the time but more on the east end. Not much further west than Munising. I sold my sled last year due to lack of use. If I decide to go again it's cheaper to rent for the weekend than own one.
Bob, I should have been clearer in my initial question. It is an AC car thus the fan clutch. My other 74 FB also has AC & the water pump has bolts not studs. But most likely the wp has been changed.

Bob, I sold my two Arctic Cats in the late 70's & haven't had the urge since!

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Glen:

The link was in Brewsters post, not toomanybirds post. One above his!

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Old 01-05-2008, 10:51 PM
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Thank you, too many birds, I appreciate the quick response. Somewhere along the line the thermostat housing must have been changed to the cast iron one, luckily I have an aluminun one in good condition. The water pump studs are an easy fix. I'm hoping the shop where I'm taking the engine will have a suitable intake manifold gasket. I got the proper color engine paint from Scott Tieman a while back. Could you clarify what you mean by "in the above referenced post"? I'm not seeing that on your post. Thanks again. There will be more questions soon.
Never mind, I found the reference in Brewsters post.

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Old 01-06-2008, 01:16 AM
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Yeap, your correct, I didn't read the spec WRONG!
SORRY!


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Old 01-07-2008, 08:29 AM
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I misunderstood the spec and was thinking non-A/C cars for the Fan question. Sorry !

Bob, I hear you about the selling the sled which is something I thought about as well. If your going on a trip anytime this year let me know and maybe we can meet up some where?

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:33 PM
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Here is one for under 10k!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...spagenameZWDVW

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Yeah, sure.....only wants $9800. I like the options listed too:

Options
Sunroof Leather Seats Cassette Player 4-Wheel Drive
Anti-Lock Brakes Driver Airbag Passenger Airbag Side Airbags

I think I'd avoid this one.....

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Gee I wonder if that guy on ebay would take a little less if I sent him a Western Union wire gram real quick. LOL

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Old 01-10-2008, 01:09 AM
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Hey guys! You snooze, you lose!

I just bought this car for $9800, it is matching nos, rust free, original paint.

I sent him the money, he is going to deliver it for free!

I know I can trust him, but his english wasn't so good.....

I thought it was strange he wanted me to wire the money to a foreign bank......

But I really got a great deal on this car!

You know what they say about me, "He's from Kansas, he trusts people!"

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Hey guys! You snooze, you lose!

I just bought this car for $9800, it is matching nos, rust free, original paint.

I sent him the money, he is going to deliver it for free!

I know I can trust him, but his english wasn't so good.....

I thought it was strange he wanted me to wire the money to a foreign bank......

But I really got a great deal on this car!

You know what they say about me, "He's from Kansas, he trusts people!"
He must have two. He made the same deal with me. I trust him. He seems like an honest chap!

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What's up with that? I wired him the $$$$$$$$ already.

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Don't worry, you will both get your car. all i need for you to do HOWEVER, is to cash a check i am sending you that will cover the shipping and taxes. I will be most generous and make said check out for an additional 5,000. all you have to do is provide me half of that sum back in the form of a direct deposit to the account number i provide and the rest is yours to keep for your troubles.... As for you mr too manyu birds, before isend car to you, you must prove yourself as man of honor. i feel a scammer does try to steal me from money. here in ubjugandaigdjuf we put on ladie's pink dress, hold propane torch between our legs pointing upand dance the mak ugh dah fertility dance to prove our manhood. if you wish car for moneys, please prove your manhood by pleasing us with a film tape of you in our ritual dance. then i send car.

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Yeap, another scam!

Ok, what about the Beer? who likes EXTRA STOUT?
Now where talking!

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I'd bring my car over the day that happens. I'll be the first one to put you on the trailer Brew! LOL

SDD: Because you don't do the TQ thing like the rest of us does that mean that you are driving all the way to Dayton? I'd like to see that! LOL

I love this talk thing. It's so affordable!
Bob, you are welcome to race Brewster and his car down my street anytime, Extra Stout vs. Miller Light, beer or no beer, 4-Speed against 4-Speed, one on one.
Will that close ratio transmission of yours send Brewster to the trailer early on or will it be up to the drop of the flag and some fancy clutching?

Yes Bob, talk is cheep.

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