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Old 12-18-2011, 02:23 PM
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Well Doug, you got me doubting myself so I looked it up...at least in Georgia-

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“A red flashing light means you must stop completely (treat as you would a stop sign). Proceed with caution only after yielding the right of way to pedestrians and to other vehicles at the intersection.”
"A yellow flashing light means you must slow down and exercise caution before proceeding through the intersection.”
I'd be very surprised if it was any different in TN or any other state.


Curiosity got the best of me so I looked for TN. guidelines on traffic signals...I think I see what his confusion was-
It's to be treated as a 4 way stop if the signals are inoperative. They are not considered inoperative if they are flashing.
This is really the rule of thumb for any place I know of. A dark light is a stop light.

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c) The driver of any vehicle approaching an intersection that is controlled by a traffic-control signal that is inoperative because of mechanical failure or accident shall come to a full and complete stop at the intersection.....
A traffic-control signal shall not be considered inoperative if the signal is operating in flashing mode. If a signal is operating in flashing mode, it shall require obedience by vehicular traffic pursuant to § 55-8-112.

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Old 12-18-2011, 02:59 PM
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What really pisses me off are people that can't at least do the speed limit. If you are driving 10 mph UNDER the posted speed limit.... you are a hazzard and should be taken off the road and cited.
So, your are mad at people who cannot drive at " least " the speed limit? then you have a problem with obeying the law. A speed limit is a LIMIT, not a requirement. That is why there are passing lanes and multi lane roads.

It is not inconsiderate, it is prudent. I do not know anyone who wants to take longer than needed to reach their destination. No one is, or should be, purposely trying to slow anyone down. There are valid times and situations for driving under the limit. Bad weather, towing, etc.

Look up the defintion of the word 'limit'. It is not the same as 'requirement'.
Some people drive with a false defination of meanings in the english language.

I did not make up the language, did not make up the traffic laws but, I do follow them for the most part. sorry if that bothers some. Too bad.

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Old 12-18-2011, 02:59 PM
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So many people that have licenses have no idea what the rules of the road are.
More and more don't even care what the rules are. They make up their own on a day to day basis.

If in the Provence of Quebec, do not go thru a yellow caution light. Even if you have to slam on the brakes and jackknife the tractor trailer you're driving. You will get a ticket.... $125.00. I found that out the hard way. Yellow means the same as a redlight up there.

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Old 12-18-2011, 04:08 PM
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So, your are mad at people who cannot drive at " least " the speed limit? then you have a problem with obeying the law. A speed limit is a LIMIT, not a requirement. That is why there are passing lanes and multi lane roads.

It is not inconsiderate, it is prudent. I do not know anyone who wants to take longer than needed to reach their destination. No one is, or should be, purposely trying to slow anyone down. There are valid times and situations for driving under the limit. Bad weather, towing, etc.

Look up the defintion of the word 'limit'. It is not the same as 'requirement'.
Some people drive with a false defination of meanings in the english language.

I did not make up the language, did not make up the traffic laws but, I do follow them for the most part. sorry if that bothers some. Too bad.
If a slow driver is driving less than the posted speed limit(which is moreless a guide on how fast to drive I generally drive 7-10 over).... and a driver comes up behind this person and rides their ass a little to let them know that they feel comfortable driving a little faster.... then.. as a slow driver driving under the posted limit should be considerate enough to pull to the side and let the other person go by.... anything less would be rude and inconsiderate. What gives a person the right to hold up someone that is comfortable driving the posted speed limit???....

BTW - yes... I understand towing... weather conditions etc..... I also understand oblivious inconsideration.... my basis is a clear dry sunny day...... people driving too slow in the fast lane... busy 2 lane roads that aren't really safe to pass on etc.... If someone wants to drive in the SLOW lane on a multi lane highway 5-10 mph under the posted speed limit... that is your business.... but please don't inconvience others....... its just plain rude.

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Old 12-18-2011, 04:28 PM
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Brake check me.... I'll run up your ass even harder.... I drive a 400hp car and truck for a reason.. to blow around people such as yourself... People that drive too slow are inconsiderate and dangerous.... not everybody has all the time nor paitence to wait for you.

A couple of weeks ago I was up in Oregon.... I couldn't believe how many people up there actually drive under the speed limit.... especially people from Washington WHY??? What is wrong with people up there???? I'm originally from Spokane and can't stand how slow people up there move...
umm i was going 10 over the limit on a two lane road.try that crap with me and you'll be in a ditch.big truck or not...you are the kind of person that makes people want to put YOU in the ditch..

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Old 12-18-2011, 04:33 PM
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If a slow driver is driving less than the posted speed limit(which is moreless a guide on how fast to drive I generally drive 7-10 over).... and a driver comes up behind this person and rides their ass a little to let them know that they feel comfortable driving a little faster.... then.. as a slow driver driving under the posted limit should be considerate enough to pull to the side and let the other person go by.... anything less would be rude and inconsiderate. What gives a person the right to hold up someone that is comfortable driving the posted speed limit???....

BTW - yes... I understand towing... weather conditions etc..... I also understand oblivious inconsideration.... my basis is a clear dry sunny day...... people driving too slow in the fast lane... busy 2 lane roads that aren't really safe to pass on etc.... If someone wants to drive in the SLOW lane on a multi lane highway 5-10 mph under the posted speed limit... that is your business.... but please don't inconvience others....... its just plain rude.

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next time don't assume that someone was doing under the limit.you look like a real douchbag now.

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Old 12-18-2011, 05:00 PM
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you look like a real douchbag now.
Wouldn't be the 1st time and probably won't be the last... oh well.... Just assumed you were driving under the speed limit.... I drive about 50,000 miles a year... and just sick and tired of incompetent drives that are oblivious to what is going on around them...... I guess I'm internet raging...

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Old 12-18-2011, 05:16 PM
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if im driving the posted speed limit and someone wants to pass me--tough chit
the speed is posted for a reason and too many think it doesnt apply to them.

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Old 12-18-2011, 05:21 PM
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Wouldn't be the 1st time and probably won't be the last... oh well.... Just assumed you were driving under the speed limit.... I drive about 50,000 miles a year... and just sick and tired of incompetent drives that are oblivious to what is going on around them...... I guess I'm internet raging...
I too am sick of incompetent drivers.Most are real a$$ wipes.I drive a 58,000lb truck and can not understand why some one would tail gate me in it..But with my 79 bird most think that they are NASCAR drivers and want to ride my butt.I hit the gas and get up to about 100 MPH[not real smart] and they think its a reason to catch up to me.
Most of the time i do 10 to 15 above the limit[a couple of PBA cards help]and i always get some retard that thinks its ok to ride my a$$.I find that drivers from NJ,PA and CT are the worst.And don't get me started with woman drivers, they make guys look like pussys..That being said if someone wants to ride my a$$ they are in for a big surprise.

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Old 12-18-2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by firebirdcrazy1959;get up to about MPH and they think its a reason to catch up to me.
Most of the time i do 10 to 15 above the limit[a couple of PBA cards help
and i always get some retard that thinks its ok to ride my a$$
you drive just shy of whats considered reckless driving yet you complain because someone tailgates you?
maybe he is using you as a radar spotter.

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Old 12-18-2011, 05:48 PM
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you drive just shy of whats considered reckless driving yet you complain because someone tailgates you?
maybe he is using you as a radar spotter.
No most of the time its women or kids in their rice burners in a hurry to get in front of me and slow down or get off the next exit.
I do understand what you are saying.I had a woman pull out in front of me in my truck yesterday,she was in the turn around spot that the cops use to do radar.i laid on the air horns which did not faze her then she proceeded to tail gate me just to get off the next exit..and i was doing the speed limit.

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Old 12-18-2011, 06:02 PM
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i too drive heavy and have seen many MANY times that if one driver is speeding,,everyone else are compelled to speed also
especially if the big truck is speeding
we just picked up an 18 wheeler and car just last night for the same scenario.
the 18 wheeler passes and the car speeds up,and the 18 wheeler side swiped the car
the car was so messed up,we had to check the reg.card to figure out the make and model.
speeding fines need to be $100 each mile over the limit,

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Old 12-18-2011, 06:06 PM
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99% of the time i do the limit posted,when i do go 10 to 15over its because some yahoo is riding my butt.In the truck i do the limit or less.ever try to stop a 58,00lb truck in a hurry?

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Old 12-18-2011, 06:22 PM
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99% of the time i do the limit posted,when i do go 10 to 15over its because some yahoo is riding my butt.In the truck i do the limit or less.ever try to stop a 58,00lb truck in a hurry?
if a tailgater hits you,,it wouldnt even disrupt your driving so i just ignore them

58,00lb truck?
try stopping up to 159,000 lbs in a hurry

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Old 12-18-2011, 06:52 PM
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had a guy who claimed i crowded him on a turn. after we made the left turn he sped up and swerved and cut me off. well, the road was wet and he wasn't as good a driver as he thought. spun off the road went into the median then back across the road and crashed into the guard rail which spun him back into me. hit me so hard it knocked me over a 8 inch curb and into oncoming traffic. i got stopped without hitting anyone and before i could get out 3 cops were there. i'm sitting facing the wrong way on a 6 lane highway with a wrecked car. luckily the guy behind me stopped and told the statetrooper what had really happened. a dumb drunk had just taken out the 71 Trans Am that had just came out of the paint shop earlier that week.
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...sounds like a few of the posters here are the very ones I try to avoid when driving, LMAO

...after driving for 45 years ( and driving was a big part of my job for many of those years), and going to racing schools and high performance driving schools, I feel I can handle my cars (most of which have way more than 400HP) way better than most of the other people on the highway. That said, you still have to account for stupidity, and a driver attempting to teach me, or another driver, a LESSON is stupid...rage/lessons etc, it only causes a distraction for both drivers and also endangers many other innocent drivers and passengers in your crash field that don't even know what is going on between you and the "stupid driver"

...serious drivers don't do brake checks, tailgate, clog lanes etc... they eliminate the possible hazzards as quickly as possible to allow safe and smooth passage for all involved...getting there safe and sound is WINNING, attempting to teach lessons on the road is a fools game

...never tailgate regardless how slow the traffic is, other driver/car may be impaired
...never "brake check", could cause a chain reaction killing someone 3 cars back or 2 lanes over
...drive smooth and steady, you'll get there just as quickly with a far slower heart rate

...personally, I've learned patience...I always stay in the right lane unless passing...I NEVER tailgate or brake check, is it worth the drama to save a minute of drive time or kill someone...I usually run the speed limit, sometimes a few miles over or under to stay with traffic flow....driving smooth is the key, plan ahead, look ahead and be safe

...the safety of my family or yours is way more important than any pissing match on the streets or highways...nothing is so important as to jeapordize their lives
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:09 PM
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sounds like some good driving tips you got there datona
so many people think rules dont apply to them,that their beyond having an accident
its jerks like this that make our insurance premiums so high.
next time you see a reckless driver,ask yourself just how much will he cost you by his driving habits

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...friend of mine had eye surgery recently, lenses replaced and perfect vision, BUT, a side effect is "halo vision" while driving at night with city lights...so, he drives cautious and drives the speed limit, but sometimes a "teacher" comes up behind him and flashes the brights before he can complete a pass on the highway and blinds him to the point he can't do anything but slow down and hold on, which only irritates the "teacher" more and both drivers become distracted by the circumstance

...I drive many cars that are low to the ground and any car tailgating me, especially pick up trucks/Jeeps etc, blinds me to the point I can't see whats ahead of me without adjusting the mirrors to eliminate their lights...stay back and be courteous and thoughtful, the driver ahead of you not be holding you up on purpose, the "teacher" may be the biggest part of the problem

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Well Doug, you got me doubting myself so I looked it up...at least in Georgia-

I'd be very surprised if it was any different in TN or any other state.

Curiosity got the best of me so I looked for TN. guidelines on traffic signals...I think I see what his confusion was-
It's to be treated as a 4 way stop if the signals are inoperative. They are not considered inoperative if they are flashing.
This is really the rule of thumb for any place I know of. A dark light is a stop light.
Excellent! I don't care for that guy and it will be a pleasure to inform him that he's wrong.

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