[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I think the rings Marty used on his car would be good for a low HP application 1,200-1,600 HP but when you get in the upper HP levels like around 2,000 + a hoop set up like Steve Morris has would work a lot better.
I'm lucky my dual o-ring set up with my ARP2000 studs work fine ill see what happen this year.

GTO George

I hope you are wrong on that...I am planning to run them and am expecting to make north of 2500.

[johnta1]

Link to thread on rings:

New Head Gaskets

[GTOGEORGE]

I’m thinking Marty’s gas filled rings are more for a lower Hp level……under 1,600hp. Going by my research Steve Morris Hoops work for a higher hp level…. Over 1,600 hp. Just wondering what’s the known hp level Marty’s rings have held up to?


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Interesting how some people don't understand how things work and should be rated. The rings don't know a thing about HP. They control cylinder pressure. Marty made about 1600 HP from a 406 ci engine. If I have the same cylinder pressure in a 505 ci or 535 ci engine engine how much more HP will I be making?

Stan

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I’m thinking Marty’s gas filled rings are more for a lower Hp level……under 1,600hp. Going by my research Steve Morris Hoops work for a higher hp level…. Over 1,600 hp. Just wondering what’s the known hp level Marty’s rings have held up to?


GTO George

Where did you hear that they are gas filled?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Where did you hear that they are gas filled?

I’m not sure maybe it was another ring, I’ll have to do some research, thanks for catching that.


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Interesting how some people don't understand how things work and should be rated. The rings don't know a thing about HP. They control cylinder pressure. Marty made about 1600 HP from a 406 ci engine. If I have the same cylinder pressure in a 505 ci or 535 ci engine engine how much more HP will I be making?

Stan

You are Correct! I pretty sure you are stating the obvious!


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Where did you hear that they are gas filled?

So where did you get your rings?

GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Must not read my posts George, I previously posted in the last day or so that the rings are available from Bob and Frank.

Tom V.

If you don't know who Bob and Frank are they are the All Pontiac Guys.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I’m not sure maybe it was another ring, I’ll have to do some research, thanks for catching that.


GTO George

There are other rings out there that are gas filled I guess Marty’s rings are not!


GTO George

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

So where did you get your rings?

GTO George

All Pontiac

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

All Pontiac

OK…..just curious!



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

All Pontiac

Have you machined you block/heads if not maybe you would want to look into the rings/hoops the Steve Morris has…..just for the heck of it!


GTO George

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Have you machined you block/heads if not maybe you would want to look into the rings/hoops the Steve Morris has…..just for the heck of it!


GTO George

Steve isnt the only one that has the hoops...Just for conversation sake, where did you get your HP capability numbers of the Marty rings?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Steve isnt the only one that has the hoops...Just for conversation sake, where did you get your HP capability numbers of the Marty rings?

Just a guess....so don't worry. If I've read correctly they came out in the 90's that's 30 years ago......HP numbers have changed a lot since then......speacialy for Pontiacs. Its like anything else.........things change! Just for sh_ts and giggles........who has used Martys rings.....besides Marty?


GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Steve isnt the only one that has the hoops...Just for conversation sake, where did you get your HP capability numbers of the Marty rings?

Yes others are selling those rings.
I would use them but i would have to deck my block a lot to get rid of my current o-ring set up.....pain in the butt. My set up is sealing fine now that i switch to the ARP2000 head studs!


GTO George

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Just a guess....so don't worry. If I've read correctly they came out in the 90's that's 30 years ago......HP numbers have changed a lot since then......speacialy for Pontiacs. Its like anything else.........things change! Just for sh_ts and giggles........who has used Martys rings.....besides Marty?


GTO George

So you came to that conclusion over the fact that the rings came out in the mid 90s?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

So you came to that conclusion over the fact that the rings came out in the mid 90s?

DONT split hairs.....I can't do that.......
If what I read is correct that's when Marty stared to mess with them.


GTO George

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

DONT split hairs.....I can't do that.......
If what I read is correct that's when Marty stared to mess with them.


GTO George

I'm not splitting hairs at all...Just admit that you just threw a number out there, right off the top of your head.

[Tom Vaught]

George likes to argue, let it go Opeliac, and run your program.

Tom V.