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How difficult would it to be to put a Pontiac V8 and a TH400 in a 1976 Pontiac Astre? Anyone done it?
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It wouldn't be any different from a BBC Vega swap.
Are you thinking of a dedicated race car or something street legal? The reason I ask is there was a Astre race car for sale on Craigslist about 6 or 8 months ago in New England.
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If it breaks. I didn't want it in the first place. _____________________________________________ 69 GTO \ 72 FIREBIRD \ 1/2 OF A 64 GTO \ 70 JAVELIN \ 52 FORD PU \ 51 GMC PU \ 29 FORD PU \ 85 ALFA ROMEO SPYDER \ A HANDFUL OF ODD DUCATI'S \ 88 S10 LT1 BLAZER & MY DAILY DRIVER 67 SUBURBAN. |
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Motor plate+ mid-plate would make it more simple
Exaust would be the harder part (headers) GT |
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There was a guy ,cant remember his name put a Pontiac V8 in his Vega and used it for work. He was from Greensburg Pa and worked in Maryland at a truck dealer. Him and his father in law ran a 1965 GTO new. Article was in old HHP I think. The rear end would need the attention,12 bolt or 9".
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Do a little Internet searching for Bob Maxey and Bert Strauss.
Eric
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"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" noted philosopher Mike Tyson Life begins at the end of your comfort zone. “The mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions.” |
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I can attest to this. I just did my first front/mid plate setup on my Fairlane. Headers were a nightmare. Just make them custom and be done with it.
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1967 Firebird 462 580hp/590ftlbs 1962 Pontiac Catalina Safari Swapped in Turd of an Olds 455 Owner/Creator Catfish Motorsports https://www.youtube.com/@CatfishMotorsports |
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I was thinking of a dedicated drag car. Not sure what would need to be done to stiffen the unibody for a drag car.
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I was half tempted to put one on an s10 frame and shorten wheelbase to match and channel the body over. or use a front clip or differant front clip and run rails to the back with a 4 link or ladder bar chassis? Depends on how solid the car is would make a big difference , how well it would hold the power.
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In 1989, I put a 455 in a 1980 Sunbird...I kept the complete stock front end...Let me tell you now, the headers were a bitch, and the engine compartment was so tight, NOTHING could keep it cool even on a 35 degree night...After 6 months of trying everything, I pulled the engine and put it in a 1981 Cutlass, and you couldnt pay it to get over 180 with a stock size 3 core brass/copper radiator...
That was my experience with those types of cars. |
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What an interesting project tho...there is still a vega around here terr0rizing the streets
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Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
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Something like these may be the ticket unless you're looking forward to doing the fabrication.
https://www.racingjunk.com/door-cars...1&np_offset=64 https://www.racingjunk.com/door-cars...p_offset=102#3
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If it breaks. I didn't want it in the first place. _____________________________________________ 69 GTO \ 72 FIREBIRD \ 1/2 OF A 64 GTO \ 70 JAVELIN \ 52 FORD PU \ 51 GMC PU \ 29 FORD PU \ 85 ALFA ROMEO SPYDER \ A HANDFUL OF ODD DUCATI'S \ 88 S10 LT1 BLAZER & MY DAILY DRIVER 67 SUBURBAN. |
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My current project. 1976 Astre with a 71-73 Vega front end. I thought about putting the 455 from my totaled Firebird in it, but I thing a big block Chevy is going in the car.
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67 Firebird 467 cubic inches 7.71 @ 92 in the 1/8 and 11.69 @ 115 in the 1/4. |
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Although not related.
When I was test driving my TA, mind you, new on the lot 3.4 miles. I pulled back into the dealer lot after the test drive. A new car transport was unloading cars. The next car off was a new Astre. I knew what they were...........The salesman that rode with me screamed at the driver, "Don't unload the P.O.S. here!!! Take it back where it came from....it got unloaded. I can't imagine what it's been recycled into by now...
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down...
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Either he was going to have to front clip the frame, or sell the car as it sat, he sold the car to someone else and let it become their problem. The added weight of a Stratostreak V8 is only going to exacerbate this tendency. If you're intent on doing it I'd figure a real frame under the Astre body to keep the wheels all pointed in the same direction. Do it right, and only do it once.
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Hey Tim,
I know Mike Cooper in Ks ( or a family member) has one. You may want to reach out to him about the build. Best to you and miss seeing you as well.
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Quote:
Its why we are here. |
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Any difficulty is worth it x 100...
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466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2,generic one inch open spacer 373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft 308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471 |
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Given the light duty brakes and suspension I would go Gen IV LS series, specifically LS3 for it 395 pound weight and small outer dimensions. TH350 would bolt up fine and fit as they did stock.
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I would put a Briggs and Stratton in before I did that.
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