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Tom, I want to thank you for going through all that trouble in trying to answer a question that was ask of me. You even took the time to fine the article "amazing". Nice having all that free time on your hands, I'll bet you spent some money on the phone not only with Hot Rod but with other exhaust
companies. I felt by posting those phone numbers I made it allot easier for you...LOL... hope I save you some money. Isn't it great to know there's other products out there, as Steve C. has also point out, ( Supreme Automotive in Brooklyn, NY at 718-232-4646 ) I'm really disappointed you didn't take the time to research the system Steve C, mention, but felt it important only to research Muffler Mans X crossover system.

Perhaps, I need to clarify my reason for posting my response to Hot Rods test of another brand of x crossover system. The purpose was to show that they do indeed produce more hp over stock type exhaust systems. I'm sure that anyone who has tired anyone of these systems will agree, their
perfectly happy with the performance of their system. I also agree that they do produce more hp over stock type, as well as H type systems, that has never been my argument. My other reason was to show that Hot Hot has also done articles on other x crossover systems, but what you won't see in any of those articles is the claim, that they are capable of producing more hp then running with open headers. That is the problem I had with one brand of x crossover, after a great amount of money, phone time, shipping cost, and count less hours of changing, pips, hangers, welding, jetting, timing, and track testing, under controlled conditions, it never produce any more power then open headers. I also want to state most are not looking for the same results, I was looking for, all I every did was state my experience I had with one particular brand.

Another point I want to make is this. how many times have we seen test or article's done by Hot Rod and other magazines, that are really in question, we all know by now that they tend to hype things a bit, or even have the wrong information, provided by the person selling his product or engine building
experience. My response just backs up the original Hot Rod test, and basically says that these systems are all about the same, sure out of the three systems, that were posted, I'm sure there's one that mite work better on different combinations, not any two cars are the same.

One thing that really troubles me is some of your statements you made, ooh I'm sure it was because things have been read into my post on " test results" that were taken completely out of contexts, it's under stand able if your a dealer for one particular product to try and defend what you believe to be
a good product, but I never made these statements ( recent Crossover comparison tests.) I never said it was a comparison test done to compare other crossovers systems, and I'm really disappointed that you Tom of all people would try and read into my post things that just aren't there.

As far as I'm concern this is my last response to this topic, it's gotten way beyond being petty, let people take all this information, and judge for themselves. I will not answer questions from anyone who has taken my response out of context, nor will I respond to anyone who is deliberately trying to invoke a pissing contest to help set up another response, for the sole perhaps of trying to create an argument. that in the end results is totally meaning less.

I want to thank Jim, and Tom Hand for taking time out of their busy schedule, and providing us with all this imformantion. Great job guys.