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[shark landis]

The "crybabie" thing wasn't directed at you, just relating to people in general that won't try to resolve a matter on their own, regardless of where thre blame lies. I believe you have a legit claim and stated that I don't blame you for not doing business with them. I wouldn't either after what you say you've been put thru, and I do intended to aprise Colin of your issue. What he does or doesn't do is on him. As for the Jeg's comment, if I check our records, you probably didn't deal with us much anyway,if at all or you would know the advantages in doing so. Or are you the one who can't stand to wait while someone hunts for the part you think you need. Anyway, a ricer will probably take your place. And the beat goes on. Take care. Ron

[shark landis]

I paid good money to PY for "Pontiac Rally II charcoal" paint, received Auto Zone Truck and Van paint, but paid at least twice as much. They all do that. I expressed my dissatisfaction to Chris and was told"that's as close as we can get." Seems a couple of years back, Bob's Pontiac parts had an exact match that came in their own cans. I took first palce at the GTOAA Nat's with that paint on the wheels. Wonder what happened to ol' Bob, anyway. My point is, there is a learning curve for all involed in this hobby. I don't believe for a minute that any one company presumes to flourish by intentionally ripping people off. The folks at OPG just handed over a check for two-grand to sponsor the drag races at this year's GTO Nat's, so just show up and you can get some of your money back, if you're quick enough!I still can't understand all of the negative experences relayed here and I have been lucky enough to have had nothing but good dealings with them. Believe me, that is not how my luck runs. Anyway, I belive that if you ask to speak to Colin Date at OPG, he would want to hear of your experinces, good or bad, as I can assure you that the folks running any busines will take your gripes much more seriously than any employee. If I have questions or concerns with Ames or PY, I have the common courtesy to confront Steve or Chris, and not just go to some public forum and bash them. I seem to get better results that way. But that's just me. Ron

[shark landis]

I'm Ron,my son "Shark", is Kevin .I'm the one with the big mouth that stated that I would stay off this forum. Kevin needs to keep a finger on the pulse of things as he is VP of the host club for this years Nat's. Jim Wangers did offer money, but requested most of it back to pay for hotel rooms for himself and Mr. Anderson, plus $500.00 he demanded to speak to his "fans". For that money you also get the opportinity to buy his book. I know, none of my concern, except that it is my dues being used to pay him and I've heard his presentation. Not worth the five beans to me. Hope that clears some things up, and now I will leave you to yourselves, as I promised earlier. Need to work on my spelling and such in case I run into another genius such as yourself, I'll not look so foolish. I wasn't told there would be a test on this. Ron

[63 Pontiac]

Instead sponsoring an event how about refunding money for bogus parts?

['ol Pinion head]

Ron L,
If OPG was such an upstanding vendor why would they offer some vendor's POS fiberglass front valance in the 1st place? The piece is junk, & to even bend one person over over for such a piece, is a joke. I guess OPG being one of the few to offer this piece is considered a "service" Furthermore, for their company to whack a customer for more than double what is suitable for propper boxing & padding & UPS oversize shipping is just not right. BuzzoJoe has a reason to be pissed.

Event $$$$ sponsoring... A bunch of us could care less how much OPG or Y1 gives to some event, but I suppose that's the only way they can gain customers... Hell, I know I'd rather see the money being spent toward cranking out or sourcing some quality parts rather than to suck up to some car club. For many such quality concern reasons, I'll always spend my money with Casperson or Ames if I can't buy it for wholesale.

[shark landis]

No need to send ME any pictures. I don't work for OPG, don't care who buys what where. I've had good luck with OPG and if I have a problem, I'm a big boy and I'll take care of it myself. I continue to support PY and Ames because they have been instrumental in the success of my past projects and I know I can count on their expertice, but I still shop around. I deal with crybabies every day at work. That is how m/o works.We pay shipping to you, you pay shipping back. If you come in the store and get the wrong part, we are NOT going to send a CAB to BRING YOUR DUMB ASS BACK! You get back to the store and we'll handle the problem. Legit problems get proper attention, but the only company I know of that pays shipping both ways is Year One, and I don't know how they do it. Also, if you think OPG donated 2k for ANYTHING I did or said, I appreciate your high opinion of my word, but also sympathize for your ignorance. Again, buy what you want, where you want. Don't shop around, cheat yourself. I can't tell you how much I don't care. I don' blame anyone for not giving their business to anyone that gave them a raw deal, but in my 18 yrs in this hobby, I've had tremendously good luck with most vendors. I know where to go for what I need. No need for me to bash anyone. Sorry about your luck and please excuse me for offering up the honest f/b that was originally requested. I guess I should have known better by now. My bad. Good luck to you. Ron Landis.

[shark landis]

The "Jeg's" reference was for Ron what's his name, always has something to add to other folks chats. Glad he doesn't use Jeg's, we've got plenty of those already and I can't help them. Takes too much time from good customers. Just assumed he was a buddy of yours. Anyway, my son is the one organizing the drags and I informed him of your issues. Please let me know if you get any response, good, bad or indifferent. If you want to e/m me, that's fine. I just don't watch this board much anymore. Just be grown up about it and see how Colin treats you. He expressed a genuine concern in improving his companies relations with the consumer, so I guess we'll see how sincere he really is. Thanx. Ron

[buzzojoe]

Ok, Landis.
Let me get this straight.
You say that this Colin guy that you know at OPG would be interested in knowing about any customer service problems. I tried at LEAST 10 times to call them. He was never available, but they promised that he would call me back which he never did. So I ask you to ask him to call me if he is really concerned about things, and you say that I'm a "crybaby" and
and not a "big boy" like you?
And on my deal I paid them $50.00 shipping TO ME when the actual shipping cost to them was only about $12.00!!!! And they would'nt let me ship it back to them myself. They said that they wanted to do a "call tag" to have it picked up and then charge me ANOTHER $50.00 for the return shipping!!!!
The part was COMPLETELY unusable!!!
It was a valance for a 68 GTO.
NONE of the openings were cut out. It was NOT trimmed or finished in any way! The edges looked like the brim of an old straw hat! It also had several big cracks in it.
I honestly think that it was a reject or an unfinished prototype or something.
I tried to work with them to get it returned, but it's pretty hard to work with a place when the people on the phone claim that they can't do anything more than charge the standard re-stocking fees and shipping fees if I want to return it, and after 10 calls I still couldn't get in touch with anyone who DID HAVE the power to do anything about the problem!
I can't stop anyone from buying from them. I can only relate honestly my problems with them and hopefully prevent others from getting stung for hundreds of dollars!
If people want to buy from OPG after the warnings from myself and others, fine. But like my grandpa used to say, "It don't matter if you know what time the train is supposed to come, if you don't want to get hit by it, stay the hell off the tracks"!

[Old Man Taylor]

OPG is also right in my back yard. I have also used them and I have also had trouble with them. I would not buy anything from it unless they were the only source for a specific part. When I had my El Camino, I also had trouble with those parts from OPG.

http://www.jimspontiac.homestead.com/Index.html

[Ron]

A coupla of years back. Bobs Pontiac Parts has not been around for 10 years or so.

Regarding PY, Ames, etc and charging as you said twice as much for paint. Well if you knew where to purchase it in the first place you should have purchased it there, but you didn't. You paid for not only the paint but someone to research it, come up with the correct paint, and to keep it in stock. In the end you got a bargin.

OPG...no one has anything to say good about OPG except Shark Landis and he got $2,000 for a race from them. HUMMMMMMMMM!!! OPG is in my back yard, I tried them, will never do it again, would not recommend them to anyone, except Shark Landis.

Sounds fishy!!

Ron



[This message was edited by Ron on May 23, 2003 at 05:12 PM.]

[shark landis]

When our club was faced with a crises of gathering money for the GTO drags due to the withdraw of money from Jim Wangers I sat down one evening and began calling, after being declined by several corporations I lastly called original parts group who without hesitation offered to sponsor the GTO drags with a donation of $2,000. Jim Wangers has since been added to the list of sponsorships, but OPG is the main sponsor. I am not asking for a standing ovation, nor do I expect the formation of a fan club, but I do on the other hand think we should set aside our past faults with them and thank them for the support they gave us in time of need. It is companies like OPG who are going to keep the hobby alive for generaions to come. Hope to see you all at the 2003 GTO Nationals, maybe we can all have some fun and use the hobby for what it was intended to do.

[shark landis]

Okay now its my turn! It seems every time my dad places a comment on this forum it is quickly followed by someone elses smart ass remark. Be the young age of soon to be 21, I find it funny to see such "adults" flaunt there ignorance in so many ways. About the fiberglass valance, being the GTO enthousiest that you all claim to be I would think with the use of a little common sense by youself would expect it to not directly bolt on a car. I will go as far as betting that no matter who makes a fiberglass part, some extra work is going to be needed to make it fit. For example when I purchased a fiberglass front end for my 64 GTO, from a well known manufacture, I spent nearly two weeks getting the fenders to fit properly. As for the guy who called OPG asking for "rugs" I believe I would have hung up. No GTO that I have been in has had a "rug" and I guarantee you won't find them in any restoration books. Being part of the the up comming GTO National Drags I have had my work cut out, as other club member have also. To begin Colon from OPG is not any relation, nor have we met face to face. But sense we are on the topic I will continue. As many of you don't know the reason behind OPG sponsorship. Out of room will continue on another reply, look below.

[Ccass]

Hey Ron, That Van & Truck paint was duplicolor and we haven't carried that in 12 years. Are you sure you purchased from us and not Ames. He carries that Duplicolor paint and swears by it. In fact, if I can find it, I'm going to start carrying it again. lmk.

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Fool around, Get hurt, don't come crying to me.

[Txbobcat]

I think this posts shows that two heads are not better than one.

[shark landis]

Like I said before, everybody has to be a smart ass,and to be honest yours is starting to smell. I wish you were able to make to the drags, because I would be curious to see what your car looks like, why did you purchase a fiberglass instead of the metal? OPG is in California and did't get a chance to call Colon, but I will do so tomarrow. And by the way if you have been installing fiberglass parts for 25 years, I would (using the common sense thing again) think you would have a reputable supplier by now, and would not have to deal with deal with companies such as OPG.

[shark landis]

SO I HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN VOTED OFF THE ISLAND? I CAN OFFICIALLY SAY I HAVE MET THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF RED KNECK OLD LADIES, I BELIEVE I HAVE EVER SEEN. I WILL BE AND SURE TO BRING THE BI-LAWS OF THE FORUM AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

[Brian Baker]

You misspelled neck.

Nobody is "voting you off the island", I'm just trying to get the info straight so I can understand EXACTLY what happened.

[Ron]

Congratulations to you Landis. You are the NUMBER 2 reason why I DON'T do business with Jegs anymore.

Ron

[buzzojoe]

I think that you are getting your people confused. I have never dealt with Jegs at all. No political statement there, I just have never have had a catalog to look through.
Do you own or work for Jegs?
I don't know who was slamming Jegs, and I'm not the impatient guy.
Please let me know what Colin says when you tell him about my bad deal.