[racerboy]

Was looking to replace the white 4-spd shifter ball with the correct one. I thought the one that PY sells with the Pontiac emblem in it wa the correct replacement, but just ran across a picture of a '70 T/A with a bright blue interior (same as mine) with a black shifter ball. Is this correct, or at least an option?

[Norwood]

Here is a picture of an NOS knob.. These are rather pricey, but I would not put one of those cheap looking repos on my car.

[PetesPonies]

I'm gonna try and post a pic of my original 1970 shift knob. This came in a totally original, totally rusted away, nothing changed '70 Firebird.

[roundportponchos]

This knob was used 71& up. The 70 w/deluxe int had black wrapped knob, w/wood knob all red 4spd insert.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by racerboy:
Larry,
Any idea why all the repo houses advertise this one as correct for a 1970? Is it correct for a Firebird, but not a Trans Am: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Larry Navarro]

the black ball.....one year, '70.

[Larry Navarro]

My last reply was in regards to the black ball and NOT the repro 71-81 KNOB.
The KNOB is nothing more than an AUTOMATIC trans shifter knob that has been retrofitted with a bad 4 speed emblem AND a threaded insert to mount on the stick.

[eaglesan13]

My 70 T/A is mostly original and it has the big black ball. It's so worn you can hardly make out the shift pattern. It has deluxe interior.

[keith k]

Both of the extremely original, low-mileage '70 4-speed T/As I've seen have had the black 8-ball. One was a standard interior car, the other deluxe.

[WarbirdTA]

Now this is intresting.
When I bought my '70 back in 1989, it also had the Hurst T handle.
Going to P.O.C.I. car show in the SoCal area, I found that the black ball was on cars up to '69. On all of the 4 speed '70s I looked at (six of them with standard interior), they all had the white ball.
So, I bought a white ball.
Anyone else with a white ball? (uh, on their car's hurst shifter)

George

[T A 70]

Hurst T-Handle came on mine. What do you think about that?

[PetesPonies]

and this....

[racerboy]

Here's what mine looks like now:

[pressthatpedal]

Norwood, your picture is interesting. I wonder if your NOS one is a late production one? The one I still have that was in my '72 Formula (bought in '82) has a distinct metal ring around the insert. I have seen NOS ones being sold that look like yours (and I've even bought one) and I always wondered if they were really later repros.

Has anyone bought the '70 black ball repro that Ames lists? It says it is a little bigger than original, but the one that is in my '70 Formula (standard int) is so worn down it looks like crap.

[racerboy]

Originally Posted by pressthatpedal

Has anyone bought the '70 black ball repro that Ames lists? It says it is a little bigger than original, but the one that is in my '70 Formula (standard int) is so worn down it looks like crap.

I bought one in the autumn. The T/A is in a garage many miles away, so I can't take a picture. It is noticeably larger than the white shift ball. I don't really like the way it feels, but that's probably b/c I'm used to the "standard size" shifter ball in my '65 and '67 GTOs, and up unitl now, in my '70 T/A.

Frank

[Chiefpontiac]

I can provide two more examples of TA's equipped with the large black ball:

1) 1970 TA without console and less than 100k miles built in May 1970. Did not end up with this car but it was original down to the hose clamps.

2) 1971 TA with console and less than 90k miles built in August 1970. This is my personal car and it is definitely the original knob. It also has the chrome rings around the gauges.

[roundportponchos]

My 71, built 12/70 has chrome bezel rims.

[roundportponchos]

I have a deluxe interior in my RAIV. I believe the red insert knobs went in deluxe interior. Most all advertizement show the blue deluxe gut w/red insert shift knob.

[Larry Navarro]

"broad-base" term..."firebird".
yes its correct.

[racerboy]

Larry,
Any idea why all the repo houses advertise this one as correct for a 1970? Is it correct for a Firebird, but not a Trans Am:

[Norwood]

I have owned my 70 Trans Am for 30 years and this is what was in it the day I got it. I am not saying that it is original, but the car was not that old when I got it. I don't think this is an aftermarket ball. It is larger than the hurst ball. My car has a standard interior.