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Old 06-01-2003, 06:29 AM
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Does anybody have any information on these cars?ie production #'s any information I can get would be appreciated.Thanks

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Old 06-01-2003, 06:29 AM
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Does anybody have any information on these cars?ie production #'s any information I can get would be appreciated.Thanks

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Old 06-04-2003, 09:46 AM
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I have some info, but it is in storage. I may have an opportunity to get it in 2 weeks.

What do you want to know? I can tell you about 5500 were made in 1971 and perhaps 8000 were made in 1972. I think 54 of the GT-37s were built with the 455HO. Rarer still is the regular 455.

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OPH will be by shortly. You may want to put down the questions you want answers to ahead of time.

The GT-37's were only built from 70 1/2 through 71. There were 3 stripe packages. 70 1/2 looked like a 69 Judge stripe. 71 looked like 70-72 Judge stripes and 71 1/2 were the sword stripe that was also used in on the 72 LeMans GT and on some 73's with the GT package.

For 1970 and 1971 the package consisted of 350 engine, dual exhaust with GTO type tips through the cutouts in the real valance panel, 3 speed hd trans.w/Hurst shifter, stripes, hood pins, Rally II wheels w/o trim ring and G70 X 14 tires, driver side body color mirror, GT-37 emblems.

In 1970 it was available on both the 2 dr sedan and 2 dr hardtop. In 1971 it was only available on the 2 dr hardtop.

In 1970 the engine choice was up through the 350/400 and in 1971 it was up through the 455HO. 4 speeds and auto's were also optional.

OPH has the numbers on how many and what engines, or at least a better number than I do.

In 1972 the T-37 went away and the Luxury LeMans was added. The LeMans became the basic A body car as the Tempest then the T-37 were in the past. The GT option in 72 was similar but do not believe the hood pins were part of it. Just don't remember that part but the remainder of the GT package was retained. The GT option remained for about 2 more years when the bumper car era came into being in 1973.

If you do a search for T-37 and or GT-37, at this website at the top of the page you should be able to get more information. Then again maybe not. Tried it and it did not work.

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Old 06-04-2003, 04:05 PM
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Hello Jack,
Did the archive search & came up empty as well. I bet it's in the Lobby somewhere. Here are production numbers... that have handy:

'71 & 71 1/2 GT-37 production: 5802

5015 350 2bbls
15 455 4bbls (all YC's with M40's)
54 455HO (aprox 20 YE's & 34 WC's & WL's)
146 400 2bbl
572 400 4bbl
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5802

Cars were built out of 5 plants & earliast built '71 1/2, so far examined has had bodytag indicating built 03C. With 4 other plants, some may have had their 1st '71 1/2's built as 03D body cars.


LeMans GT's were avail for '72 & were avail in 2 door hardtop & convertable. Also avail with & w/o endura nose (T-41 pkg). All '72 LeMans GT's with 455HO had the endura frontend.

23537 w/455HO & M22= 10
23537 w/455HO & M40= 4
23867 w/455HO & M22= 2
23867 w/455HO & M40= 5

23537 w/455 L75 Dport & M40= 24
23867 w/455 L75 Dport & M40= 2

Have to do some digging for info on '72 400 & 350 breakout & total '72 LeMans GT breakout. Again for '72, most WU2 packaged LeMans were base 350 2bbls.

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Roger,It's about time !I thought I'd wait for you to answer this one.


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Old 06-05-2003, 05:37 PM
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Is there any production breakdown for the 70 GT-37's?

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Old 06-07-2003, 11:57 AM
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I have a 1972 Lemans GT with a 350 2 barrel bench seat automatic. was curious as to how many of these were made and just how rare is this car.. I bought mine new when I realized I was going to get married and had to get rid of my '67 GTO which was taking all my money....:-)

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Old 06-07-2003, 01:52 PM
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'70 1/2 GT-37's were built on post cars (23327) & hardtops (23337). Believe there were 1419 built between the two body styles. Most of the '70 1/2's were 350 2bbl cars, but some were built with 400/4bbl. This year, the 400/4bbl auto GT-37's received the 330 horse 400 engine code XV with small valve "16" heads. 3 spd & 4spd 400 GT-37's received the 350 horse GTO engine code WT. There may have been '70 1/2 GT-37's built with 400 2bbls & T400's... but have yet to document one.


Skipping ahead to '72 production, the LeMans GT was avail in 2 door hardtop & convert bodystyles. Having never ran across a '72 LeMans GT post car, not sure if they exist. One thing for certain, the body colored mirrors included with the WU2 pkg will not allow the wing windows to open very far (the reason '71 GT-37 Post cars were not offered) Would love to see any documentation of a '72 post LeMans GT, if any such cars exist.


1972 LeMans GT (non convert) production:

7825 350 2bbl
289 400 2bbl
614 400 4bbl
24 455 4bbl (am assuming 4bbl)
14 455 HO
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8739 '72 LeMans GT (non converts)


LeMans GT convert (2D67 w WU2)
59 350 2bbl
15 400 2bbl
31 400 4bbl
2 455 4bbl (recovered in OK)
455 HO (2 w/M22, 5 w/Turbo 400)
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115 '72 LeMans GT converts

[This message was edited by ol' Pinion head on June 07, 2003 at 05:01 PM.]

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Old 06-07-2003, 08:39 PM
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It looks like I have the same info on the gt-37 cars as you do.Thanks for the info anyways.

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Old 06-09-2003, 05:44 AM
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I have a buddy that owns a 71 T-37 4door,with a #'s match 455HO auto.He says that there were only 2 built.There are some very unque Pontiacs out there and it seems that you think you know all that you can about each model and one Pontiac pots up with a wierd motor trans combo,in a model that you did'nt think that engine came in.Those are the Pontiacs I like.

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Old 06-09-2003, 06:03 AM
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Your friend must be getting his production #'s from somewhere else than PHS. I'd def like to see the original buildsheet on that 4 door

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How about some more info on that four door???


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Old 06-09-2003, 07:06 PM
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I'm not sure what info he has on the car.I'll call him up and see what info he has.

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Old 06-12-2003, 06:32 PM
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I found out that my buddy is on vacation.I'll get back with you next week.Hopefuly he has the info your interested in.

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Old 06-12-2003, 06:35 PM
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He didn't get it off e-bay a few months ago,did he ?


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Old 06-13-2003, 05:14 PM
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No,hes had the car for a few years now.

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OPH, We ha 1970 GT-37 that we sold new at our dealership in 1970 with a 4002bbl/automatic. A pretty unique car as it was 'Orbit Orange' with a hood tach. I stll have invoice from car.

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only sort of related,but wish I still had the 72 lemans sport from my youth...this car was non enduro 350-2bbl bucket seat(no console) 4 spd. dual exh. glow in the dark black sword stripe on some color orange.paid $900.00 for car with 78,000 miles,couldnt wait to pull excellant running 350 in favor of 60 over 389 tripower.....sory ,I am in dream land, the year was 1980

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Supercarbob,
Thanks for the info Clearing the cobwebs a little, seem to remember parting a '70 LeMans Sport with a 400 2bbl back in the early 90's. Makes sense that it was avail in a GT-37 as well.

On the '70 1/2 Orbit Orange GT-37, do you remember what color the stripes were? Was the dealership in IL? THANKS.

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