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Old 10-12-2005, 03:44 AM
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I would contact Lee Manufacturing in Sun Valley, CA. You can send them your original steering box and power steeing pump instead of going to a different box. They give you a choice of ratios. I had the box and pump in my '73 Grand Am rebuilt with a 12:1 ratio. They can even set the "road feel" you desire. Lock to lock on my set up is approximately 2.25 turns. Very fun to drive.

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Old 10-24-2005, 09:08 PM
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I am pretty well sold on the Jeep box, but maybe I don't understand enough about the Jeep pump. I would prefer to keep my old pump in place, but what is the difference between my old pump and the Cherokee pump? I see that the Jeep box needs more fluid. Will I loose the power steering momentarily on a hard turn of the wheel like I am low on fluid or won't it turn as easily with the Pontiac pump? I guess a better question to ask is what is better about having the Jeep pump. If I go with the Jeep pump, I would of course get the Jeep hoses, too. I understand that it is primarily a bolt on too. Does it look like it belongs on a Pontiac engine? Thanks

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Old 10-24-2005, 09:21 PM
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The Jeep pump is a high volume pump. it isnt higher pressure, since the box is quicker, ya need a pump that is able to keep the fluid flowing, or it will be jerky as you turn. What I did was pulled the pump out of the jeep housing, and slid it in the buick housing/resivoir. I had to "modify" it.
If i did it again, i would just get a pump assy off a late 70's T/A, it will keep up.
Try your pump first, if it is jerky, make the upgrade. If ya have a 70 up pump, it is supposed to be high volume anyway, just not AS high volume as the Jeep. I love mine, I am building a 70 Donahue Javelin, and have ALREADY ADAPTED THE 2000 Z-28 brakes to it, and am working on the steering box, as we speak.

I forgot to mention the rag joint. I bought one from auto zone for a 86 Monte Carlo, and it worked, i guess the Jeep one would work too, although I havent tried it.


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Old 10-24-2005, 09:24 PM
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I would take your pump to the Jeep, pull the Jeep pump out of the brackets and compare it. I think youd be surprised how close it looks, I just wanted mine to have the big roundy bubbled up stock looking pump housing/resivoir , I like to hide stuff, right there in front of ya

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Old 10-27-2005, 10:55 PM
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I am pretty well sold on the Jeep box, but maybe I don't understand enough about the Jeep pump. I would prefer to keep my old pump in place, but what is the difference between my old pump and the Cherokee pump? I see that the Jeep box needs more fluid. Will I loose the power steering momentarily on a hard turn of the wheel like I am low on fluid or won't it turn as easily with the Pontiac pump? I guess a better question to ask is what is better about having the Jeep pump. If I go with the Jeep pump, I would of course get the Jeep hoses, too. I understand that it is primarily a bolt on too. Does it look like it belongs on a Pontiac engine? Thanks
I found this on the web, it says you can use your pump if you change a valve


Where the Saginaw model 700 gear is known for its longevity, the Saginaw power steering P-pump has been around an equally long time. You most likely want to use your original pump with its reservoir and pulley. The good news is that your power steering pump can be quite easily upgraded for pressure and flow to work with your new fast ratio gear. The fitting on the back of the pump regulates the amount of oil flow from the pump. The flow control plunger, (which is inside the pump directly behind the fitting) controls the pressure relief. These parts are very interchangeable between various Saginaw P-pumps.

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:09 PM
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I had Lee Mfg. build a High effort, fast ratio box for my '79 Coupe Deville . The coupe is long gone, but I still have the box. Any one know if I could bolt that box in my '79 TA or '65 Lemans ?

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:58 PM
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After going back to my 97 truck after driving my 2004 GTO I had forgotten how much like grandma's Cadillac the steering felt.No road feel,3+ turns lock to lock.One full turn just making a 90 turn at a stop sign. They also have that electronic valve that is supposed to change effort with speed.

I wouldn't mind having Lee build one but the down time to pull mine and send it.

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Old 11-11-2005, 08:52 PM
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I had Lee Mfg. build a High effort, fast ratio box for my '79 Coupe Deville . The coupe is long gone, but I still have the box. Any one know if I could bolt that box in my '79 TA or '65 Lemans ?

Thanks,

Kurt
It's a bolt in!, for both. Ya just need to use the right hoses.

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