[marxjunk]

I had a good comeback/smart a$$ remark, but will refrain. If I bought a car, and it wasn't as advertised, i would try to re-negotiate the price, if that didnt work I would demand a refund. If that didn't work here's what my lawyer told me to do.
Right now internet fraud is one of the biggest, fastest growing types of fraud in the world. Governments are being pressured to do something, so legislation is being accelerated to protect YOU. Your state attorney generals office is the place to turn. They will prosecute these things, with a vengence.

1, If ya paid with a postal m/o, he committed mail fraud, and the US government has more power than any lawyer. Get the receipt, take it to the post office, and fill out the paper work, they will take cqare of the rest.

2. If ya paid by credit card, and the guy wont refund some money, call them and contest the payment, they will pull it fom his account, without him having any power to stop it, unless he cleans out his account.

3. Contact your local courthouse, they will get you in touch with the right people.

4. CAll your states attorney general. Have all emails, copys of the ad, if it is posted on a website, and proof of payment. Take pictures of the problems, and print them to give as evidence.

5. Do all communications by email, keep track of them, print them off everytime ya get a response. Phone converstations are tough to prove, unless you record them.

6.Dont beat them up on a message board. If ya get petty, call names, out them, or what ever, it could be detrimental to your credibility.

7. Call his local sheriff's department, be polite, but cry like a baby, tell them ya got taken advantage of. They must make a report, and contact him. Trust me when a sheriff shows up, and questions him about internet fraud, you will get his attention.

There are websites, hundreds of them, dedicated to this growing problem, do a google search and do your homework, be prepared, Like Judge Judy says, It's your job to prove it, not hers!

Dont buy anything from this board or any, unless ya do some research into the persons credibility. ASK questions about the guy befor ya buy. If ya get pressures to buy without doing research until you satisfied, let it go,anyone serious about selling something, and has a good rep, will give ya time.Just because someones been a member of a board for a while, doesn't mean he's not capable of this type of act. Desperate people do desperate things, their personal circumstance at that time, may cause people to do things they would never even consider any other time in their life, but thats not a reasn to rip someone off intentionally.

[Colin]

Originally Posted by marxjunk

5. Do all communications by email, keep track of them, print them off everytime ya get a response. Phone converstations are tough to prove, unless you record them.

Keep in mind that its not legal to record a phone conversation unless you notify the party on the other end that the coversation is being recorded.
At least that is what I was told...I tried that one time.

[firebirdcrazy1959]

marxjunk-did you get your part yet??just want to know.Larry

[Blackcat]

Mine showed up on Thursday. Taking valves to Machine shop tomarrow!

[marxjunk]

Originally Posted by Colin

Keep in mind that its not legal to record a phone conversation unless you notify the party on the other end that the coversation is being recorded.
At least that is what I was told...I tried that one time.

Laws have changed since the patrioit act. It's not illegal to record YOUR phone conversation, it's illegal for a private citizen to record someone elses.As long as it's your phone conversation, ya don't have to notify the other person either.

[marxjunk]

Originally Posted by firebirdcrazy1959

marxjunk-did you get your part yet??just want to know.Larry

NOPE, and 8 weeks is unacceptable, either get me a tracking# or send a refund, I've had enough. I have 3 pm's from you stating you shipped it 3 different times NOT GOING TO SHIP, ALREADY SHIPPED.

Just 3 weeks ago you stated you shipped it on saturday, and 2 weeks ago ya said it went out wednesday, 11 days passed and nothing............Look, the last thing I want is a hassle, and the last thing I want is to hassle you, but take a second to see why i am so aggrevated. I try to believe it's an oversight, but the proof is in the pudding, do the right thing and make it right.....please!

[BILL BOWMAN1]

When I sell something, after the deal is made, I will package the part and have it ready to ship by the time the payment arrives. Usually everything works out, right now I have a set of headers packaged waiting for a check.... been 3 weeks...
When I recieve payment, the part goes out that day, having to wait for weeks is inexcusable!!!
If your busy and having personal problems like a lot of you are claiming, don't list the parts for sale!!
Bill

[6567GTO]

Originally Posted by BILL BOWMAN1

When I sell something, after the deal is made, I will package the part and have it ready to ship by the time the payment arrives. Usually everything works out, right now I have a set of headers packaged waiting for a check.... been 3 weeks...
When I recieve payment, the part goes out that day, having to wait for weeks is inexcusable!!!
If your busy and having personal problems like a lot of you are claiming, don't list the parts for sale!!
Bill

This is exactly how I conduct my business. And, I agree with what Bill said about weeks going by without a payment or without a delivery. Totally wrong and unexceptable. I will always do the right thing if my reputation is at stake, including refunding money if the customer is not satisfied.

BTW Bill, it was nice doing business with you. The parts I got from you were exactly as described! - Phil

[BILL BOWMAN1]

My pleasure, and thanks for the link you sent, could you send it again I lost it!
Bill

[marxjunk]

Originally Posted by BILL BOWMAN1

When I sell something, after the deal is made, I will package the part and have it ready to ship by the time the payment arrives. Usually everything works out, right now I have a set of headers packaged waiting for a check.... been 3 weeks...
When I recieve payment, the part goes out that day, having to wait for weeks is inexcusable!!!
If your busy and having personal problems like a lot of you are claiming, don't list the parts for sale!!
Bill

I was beginning to think i was weird, you know by doing stuff the right way, and honestly thought about resigning my membership from this board. But then a stand-up guy like Bill speaks up............your a good man Bill!

[Blackcat]

Well, I think that something happend to your item.
Fire stated that It went out on Wendsday Nov 9th according to my guess.
Mine went out on the 14th and I got mine on the 17th
Have you gotten what carrier it was shipped by?
The tracking #

I don't believe that Fire is scamming you or trying to rip you off.
I'm growing a bit interested in what how and when Marx

[marxjunk]

I honestly don't believe he is tyring to rip me off either, he brought alot of this attention to himself, by "outting" himself.
Now if he has done what he said, i have serious doubts. Instead of saying, i havent gotten around to it, he has stated 3 times, it has "been shipped", and those are the key words, not "i'm going to ship it, but, it has already been shipped".
To be honest, i'm past it, i just want results. I guarantee, if me, or a realatively new member pulled this crap, all the "regs" would crucify us, instead of supporting us.......It isn't the idea that it is late that sickens me, it's the constant story change. I was lied to.......period.

All you guys that want to beat me up screw it, go ahead. I have issues i guess, and i was looking for somewhere to hang out when i found this place.

[firebirdcrazy1959]

i told you it was mailed last week.my boss dropped it off at the post office.i'm not giving you bull****.i did screw up.BUT IT IS SHIPPED.my boss did not get any delivery conformation.YOUR RIGHT I LIED.if your not happy,send me back the part.i'll even pay the return shipping.everyone else got their parts.i don't know why you haven't gotten yours.all this because of a f*#king car part.give me a break already.you can say what you want,i really don't care anymore.everyone knows me here,1 person giving me a bad feedback is not going to break me.maybe i'm wrong,but right now i don't care.i've got more importent things in my life to worry about than some god dam car part you didn't get.

[David Holmberg]

marx, I had offered to help you as well. I think people want to think the best when things like this happen.

He admitted he was wrong, that's pretty stand up in my book.

I hope the parts show up, and if I can be of any other help, just let me know.