[60man]

Took all of 5 minuets to tie DS tail light to fuel pump relay in the trunk. It comes ON when the fuel pump is ativated. If you're anal about tail light being on in the daylight...just unplug tail light from relay wire..NO BIG DEAL. If you have a driver car.....just plug it back in wiring harness when done racing..
At any rate...it's one more thing I don't have to worry about when I'm straped in and can't reach the headlight switch...then what ??

[goquick]

So when are the tracks or nhra going to require the tracks to be lit in the slow down areas and return roads? Anyone? They have yet to return an email when I've asked them.

[60man]

Originally Posted by goquick

So when are the tracks or nhra going to require the tracks to be lit in the slow down areas and return roads? Anyone? They have yet to return an email when I've asked them.

I agree with you for the most part man. Some tracks are better than others but most tend to light the strip rather that the return roads...
At some tracks I have been to I wonder what the rails and other fast rides do after the finish line...with no headlights ???
I'm just merely saying it ain't no big deal to comply...what the devil is 5 minuets.
While we're on the subject. Seems to me the tracks ought to have a "eye" on the turn off to make sure the cars are clear.....the tower is a LONG way away..

[johnta1]

boosted1, what div was that for? (5?) NHRA ?

Div 3 NHRA requires it to be on all the time, day or night.

[60man]

Originally Posted by boosted1

i just took the tech test yesturday the tail light does not have to be on during the day

Makes sense to me...you don't need it and can't see it from the tower anyway in the daylight ...

[goquick]

I've raced on outlaw tracks that are better lit than nhra tracks after finishline and on return roads. So it could be done. My personnal opinion is this rule is an excuse to keep from accepting any responsibility for conditions at the track. I can promise you that if they were concerned about seeing all of the track, and shutdown areas, the tower would be moved to mid track instead of at the starting line or behind the burnout box so the smoke always blocks their view.

[goquick]

Anyone want me to design a racer AND officals friendly dragstrip? I have alot of ideas that needs a home. I can promise my design will make it more exciting for everyone including the fans.

[WDCreech]

The rule changes; http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp...17364&zoneid=8

The rule for taillight says, "For NHRA Sportsman and E.T. racers, a functional light must be visible from the rear of the car. This eliminates all references to night racing only, meaning a light must be functional at all times."
This says "functional", NOT functioning!
Phil, from WIR posted this; "The tail light rule and diaper rule were discussed yesterday at the NHRA Tech Seminar."

"The tail light rule says you have to have a functional tail light but you do NOT have to have it on for day racing."

"The diaper rule is still in question. NHRA said they are looking at a phase in process which may not include all classes solely based upon ET."

[Tom Vaught]

So we are talking a single "REAR RUNNING LIGHT" that must be activated on the run in the evenings, right? Road race cars have had that rule for years. It does help the visibility at night
and better safety is a good thing.

Tom V.

[johnta1]

The main reason I think they implemented this rule, is probably from all the whining like some here do.

At our track, it's required to have a tail light on when our track lights are on.
Well, we inevitably get about 10/15 people that don't turn there lights on.
Our track has a rise/dip after the finish line that is hard to see cars when you go over it. With no tail lights, we can't tell if they made it off the track.
It would be like at Norwalk, they have a rise/dip and also a lot longer.

Our rules state we can disqualify them, but how much b*tching would that be?

Anyway, NHRA decided, if they can't remember to turn there tail light on when it's dark, we'll make it where it's on all the time.
No if ands or buts.

The 'functional' part is going to be changed to functioning.
The printing of the rule was in error.
Probably have a correction in ND, maybe?

[johnta1]

Yes, Tom, only require 1 light.

With all these 'street' cars, what's the big deal?
If your track runs at night, you're required to have a light anyway before now.

[tikiklubracing]

At most tracks it will be a starters call. So now while he is wiping up after that leaky Chevy he must also keep an eye on the cars still on the track.

Keep an eye on rule revisions, keep this in your favorites;

http://www.nhra.com/content/general.asp?articleid=17519

Or in National Dragster.

[WDCreech]

At our track it is never dark. Late in the summer it might look dusk in the evening, but never dark, but there are cars, because of color, that are almost impossible to see, a half mile away, unless they have that little red light on even at mid day.

[60man]

Originally Posted by WDCreech

At our track it is never dark. Late in the summer it might look dusk in the evening, but never dark, but there are cars, because of color, that are almost impossible to see, a half mile away, unless they have that little red light on even at mid day.

How long are your days in the summer/winter..???

[grnmnstr]

Wire your tailights in with your gage lights. When it gets dark, turn your gage lights on to see them, and your taillight will automatically go on.

[goquick]

I think I'll make a message l.e.d. light that says; Why is the slow down area & return road not lit up?
Think they will get the hint?

[tikiklubracing]

Originally Posted by grnmnstr

Wire your taillights in with your gage lights. When it gets dark, turn your gage lights on to see them, and your taillight will automatically go on.

Unless your track states differently you will need to run the taillights all the time not just at night anymore.

[WDCreech]

Originally Posted by 60man

How long are your days in the summer/winter..???

Troy, we have a short summer race season, from Mother's Day through Labor Day, and the track shuts down by 10:00 pm. Hours of daylight on summer solstice, about 20. Hours of daylight on winter solstice, about 4. During the race season, it never gets dark enough to worry about needing lights but I'm putting some LED lights in my glass front end because I've gone to tracks, outside, that didn't have any lighting in the shutdown and I want to see where I'm going (or what I'm going to hit)!

[WDCreech]

tiki, the rule says "functional" not functioning, but like with most rules, left up to the track's discretion.

[goquick]

Why don't all the racers get together and tell the tracks to get the lights put up for the slow down areas and return roads?