[Joe RKD]

I hear ya there man.

How could you tell if someone took a tempest or lemans and made it into a goat? If the tags and vin were GTO. Where is identifications stamped on the car?? Hood, tailights, grills, interior handle, and emblems are different for goats right? Is the vin stamped anywhere else on the 66's other than in the door jamb and cowl tag??

[shook1]

I think once a professional builder changes the vin/data plates, and excahnges the Tempest/Lemans hood, grilles, taillights, emblems, engine, etc for GTO items, it would be near impossible for you to know the difference. Any bolt on Tempest parts found on the car could be claimed as replacement parts. Even if you somehow located a Tempest vin number on the frame, he could simply say he replaced the origional damaged frame, which is normally acceptable. If someone changes the vin, he's looking to make a profit. The question is, why is the buyer looking for a car with that vin, pride or greed?

Luke

[6d7gto]

It's not as easy as it sounds. Every single body panel is stamped with id numbers in the form of date codes. They may as well be VIN #'s because unless you have the same exact build dates for both vehicles your body panels won't match the data plate or the PHS docs. There must be 50 places where these date codes are stamped. Also, each factory built their vehicles just a little bit differently, so you'll also need both vehicles to be made at the same plant! Besides, the quarter panels, tail panel, rear bumper, interior components, frame, etc. are different for the Lemans not to mention you need a GTO engine, transmission and all the other goodies associated with that particular GTO. By the time you get all that stuff you could have bought a real GTO! I predict the Lemans will be so valuable (from being cloned and cut up) that the day's coming where the GTO will be used to clone a Lemans. Remember, you heard it here first!