[63-V326]

Originally Posted by lreGTO65

to run 7.50's or so like I want, i only need about 1500 hp, and I can do that with conventional cylinder heads all day long, we have proven combos to make way more power than that.

Since you clearly have a good deal of experience, I would suggest spending the money on a top-shelf chassis. It takes less horsepower when the chassis and suspension are correct. We have an old friend who built a vega chassis himself and went 7.94 at something absurd like 180. The car was an animal because the motor had more power than the chassis could handle. I have old pics of this from the late 80's and it would hang the left front tire all the way through second. Definitely a fun ride.

Long story short, a real chassis would have put him at the head of the pack.

I think the 63 is ideal as a race car because of its size- not too small, not too big. If the 63 we just picked up weren't so nice, I'd tub it.

I believe that pontiac has the potential to go as fast as any chevy for a few more dollars.. until you get to cylinder heads. Who makes a cylinder head for Pontiac thats as potent as say a Dart big chief for chevy? 18 years ago, I ported a set of pontiac heads for a friend and prior to that, he could not beat my 455 olds. Afterwards, he pulled away steadily in third gear. Amazing. So, if a great deal of an engine's power is made or lost with heads, how can you build an equivalent Pontiac unless you have similar head technology?

[lreGTO65]

Originally Posted by 63-V326

Since you clearly have a good deal of experience, I would suggest spending the money on a top-shelf chassis. It takes less horsepower when the chassis and suspension are correct. We have an old friend who built a vega chassis himself and went 7.94 at something absurd like 180. The car was an animal because the motor had more power than the chassis could handle. I have old pics of this from the late 80's and it would hang the left front tire all the way through second. Definitely a fun ride.

Long story short, a real chassis would have put him at the head of the pack.

I think the 63 is ideal as a race car because of its size- not too small, not too big. If the 63 we just picked up weren't so nice, I'd tub it.

I believe that pontiac has the potential to go as fast as any chevy for a few more dollars.. until you get to cylinder heads. Who makes a cylinder head for Pontiac thats as potent as say a Dart big chief for chevy? 18 years ago, I ported a set of pontiac heads for a friend and prior to that, he could not beat my 455 olds. Afterwards, he pulled away steadily in third gear. Amazing. So, if a great deal of an engine's power is made or lost with heads, how can you build an equivalent Pontiac unless you have similar head technology?

Exactly, cylinder heads are obviously one of the most important parts of a motor, and pontiac is somewhat lacking there unless you have an insane amount of money.which I dont.
The chassis is good, ill have to finish it up here at the shop but other than that should be ok to go.

[Brad B. Hillebrand]

I wouldn't put 1500hp in a stock frame car - what are the plans for the chassis? No big deal that it's a BBC, about as pontiac as the IA2 and MR1 anyway. What's the combo going to be?

[R 70 Judge]

Sounds like he wants to build your car Brad = 1500hp and a BBC.

I still watch those videos of your car cruising around on the streets from time to time. That thing is crazy fast!

[Brad B. Hillebrand]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

Sounds like he wants to build your car Brad = 1500hp and a BBC.

I still watch those videos of your car cruising around on the streets from time to time. That thing is crazy fast!

LOL!!!!

Yea, it's nuts alright. I'm still afraid of it......:-)

[lreGTO65]

The chassis in the rear wont be stock, and im trying to figure out something to make the front better. I might have Mike at Alston make me some tubular A-arms and then ill brace the front frame rails, and obviously they will be tied into the rear frame and the car will be SFI 25.5 legal so itll be stiff.

Motor im not sure exactly yet what bore/stroke. im either going to go 4.250 with a 4.500 bore and make it a 540. or go 4.500 stroke with a 4.6 bore and make it a 598, or go crazy and go 4.750 and 4.6 and go 632.
probably up around 14:1 we have a number of custom solid rollers blueprinted that have made some serious hp on the dyno and have track proven results.
and it will have BMF cylinder heads on it.R&R billet Aluminum Rods, Diamond Pistons.

[Brad B. Hillebrand]

Whos Block and crank?

Do you guys have dyno at your shop and what kind of services do you do. I see that 57 (I think) in the advert. and always wondered what Legend is all about...think you are part of the Chicago Wise guys?

[63-V326]

The 632 has my vote. Great combination!

[lreGTO65]

Originally Posted by Brad B. Hillebrand

Whos Block and crank?

Do you guys have dyno at your shop and what kind of services do you do. I see that 57 (I think) in the advert. and always wondered what Legend is all about...think you are part of the Chicago Wise guys?

Motown block, and we run Callies cranks, we do not have a dyno yet, we are in the process of searching for a larger building which will have an engine dyno and possibly a chassis dyno.
We build everything muscle, we do complete motors from stock to wild, we do everything in house except crank grinding/balancing.
We can do every install under the sun, we do tons of muscle cars, GTO's chevelles, firebirds, novas, camaros, roadrunners, super bees, chargers, satellites, just to name a few.
we do chassis, roll cages, back halves, disc brakes, fabrication, we even dabble in body work on our own stuff.
And depending on how big our next shop is we MIGHT start doing body work again so we can do COMPLETE rotisserie restos in house!
So really we do it all, and right now it all gets done in a 3500 sq foot shop that at this current time is housing about 12 cars, a 63 GS Vette Clone Serial #000001, a 69 super bee, a 69 camaro, 69 chevelle, 56 TBird, 64 1/2 mustang conv, 68 Firebird, 65 Galaxie, 73 Cuda, 70 Chevelle, 96 Camaro, 1999 Firehawk.
We are busy