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#1
10-31-2007, 09:51 AM
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I saved the pix you posted from sales manual when they went up. Basically same thing I have from the FGF website. Except for the base list price page - I didn't have that one.
The sheets I'm using for Fbird are the ones that say "revised 1-1-68 at bottom", and Feb.20,1968 along side border. It's good to have the Sept.67 sheet also. But have gone as far as they will take me on BlkBrds Car. I need the sheets from section (u) Trailer-Hauling Eqpt and (v) Miscellaneous His totals are off - and his BHC has an amount in the Miscellaneous Amount box (first one - so far). I might can find the difference in those (u) and (v) sections. But they are not functional on the FGF website. http://firstgenfirebird.org/firebird...l/t_index.html (t) Prices Index This section lists price information for all the Pontiac series. Firebird Sport Options, Group Prices, Paint, Engines, Transmissions, Tires Subsection Index: (t) Prices (u) Trailer-Hauling Equipment (v) Miscellaneous Section Index: Series Availability Selling Feautures Sales Information Main: 1968 Pontiac Sales Manual |
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#2
10-31-2007, 12:12 PM
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Anyway theres not much info on that page but here it is. I believe that when Geoff did the FAQs on the FGF he used my copies of dealer albums and the one with Feb 20,1968 doesnt have the U section in it. U section I provided is in the other sales manual which has the Sept price sheet. I also have the accessorizer for Feb 68 which would have all the 1/1/68 price increases included. Thats the one I show the shoulder belts in. There is no section in U for Firebird trailer towing only special equipment  
Last edited by Cammer-6; 10-31-2007 at 12:17 PM. |
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#3
10-31-2007, 01:48 PM
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1968 FIREBIRD RA PRICING
Gentlemen,
I did some research years ago on pricing several RA Firebirds and was able to match the Billing History label price exactly. I used information from a 1968 Firebird price guide dated 2/20/68 and other sources (some I've seen posted on this thread). (1) 1968 FIREBIRD 400 CP RA/AUTO INVOICE DATED 4/24/68 LABEL PRICE $3937.53 PAINT CC CAMEO IVORY NC TRIM 252 RED BUCKET SEATS NC MODEL 22437 H.T. CP STD INTERIOR 2781.00 400 OPT. (REQ'D W/ 347) 273.83 347 R.A. ENG (RA I) 342.29 351 HYDRAMATIC TRANS 236.97 361 SAF-T-TRK H.D. 63.19 37P AXLE SP. ORD. (3.90) NC 453 RALLY II WHLS 84.26 472 FL. CONCOLE 50.55 481 DUAL EXH. NC 621 RIDE & HANDLG PKG 9.48 671 UNDERHOOD LAMP 3.16 692 HD ALT. 55 AMP 15.80 702 SPARE WHL & TIRE, CONV NC MC F70x14 RED WIDE OVAL NC TOTAL 3860.53 HAND. CHG. W/RA OPT 15.00 DEST. CHG. 62.00 TOTAL PRICE 3937.53 (2) 1968 FIREBIRD 400 CV RA II/4-SPD INVOICE DATED 5/22/68 LABEL PRICE $4101.34 PAINT R2 SOLAR RED/BLK TOP NC TRIM 262 PARCHMENT BUCKET SEATS NC MODEL 22467 CONVERT STD INTERIOR 2996.00 400 OPT. (REQ'D W/ 347) 273.83 347 R.A. ENG (RA I) 342.29 358 4 SPD CLO. TRANS 184.31 361 SAF-T-TRACK H.D. 63.19 37P AXLE SP. ORD. (3.90) NC 382 RADIO P/B FR. ANT. 61.09 434 TACH-HOOD MTD. 63.19 481 DUAL EXH. NC 521 DICC BRK.-FR. 63.19 MD F70x14 WHT-WIDE OVAL NC TOTAL 4047.09 HAND. CHG. W/R.A. OPT 15.00 DEST. CHG. 39.25 TOTAL PRICE 4101.34 PRICE ADJ. (W/RA II ENG.) 101.65 (probably dealer cost diff.) (The first 10-15 RAII Billing History's have a hand-written price adjustment dated 7/9/68) (3) 1968 FIREBIRD 400 CP RAII/4-SPD INVOICE DATED 7/10/68 LABEL PRICE $3985.78 PAINT I I AUTUMN BRONZE NC TRIM 253 BLACK BUCKET SEATS NC MODEL 22437 H.T. CP. STD. INTERIOR 2781.00 400 OPT. (REQ'D W/ 347) 273.83 347 R.A. ENG. (RA II) 473.94 358 4 SPD. CLO. TRANS 184.31 361 SAF-T-TRACK H.D. 63.19 37P AXLE SP. ORD. (3.90) NC 382 RADIO P/B FR. ANT. 61.09 434 TACH-HOOD MTD. 63.19 481 DUAL EXH. NC 621 RIDE & HANDLG PKG 9.48 MC F70x14 RED WIDE OVAL NC 754 FR. SHLDR BELTS NC TOTAL 3910.03 DEST. CHG. 75.75 TOTAL PRICE 3985.78 (Shoulder belts became standard (no charge) for 1968) Maybe this can help in your research. Good luck! Jim Mino |
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#4
10-31-2007, 02:42 PM
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Jim just curious where you got the info on the handling charge of $15 for RA option. |
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#5
10-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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VERY helpful information from Jim Mino.
1. Unlocked the mystery to option code 37P = 3.90 gear on Fbird with option 347. (Which probably unlocks the mystery to option code 375 = 4.33 on the GTO with option 347. 2. Now have 2 Fbirds and 2 GTO's confirming $15 price increase for Ram1 at later point in year. 3. Now have 3 Fbirds with 347 confirming $9.48 charge for option 621 RideHandle option - rather than $4.21 discounted price listed with 345. Great Stuff Jim ! P.S. Jim: we have one Ram2 Bird with option #742 (no charge) - do you have anything that might help with that ? |
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#6
11-01-2007, 12:37 AM
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1968 Ram1 Bird - White
Invoice 4/24/68 Paint CC Cameo Ivory Trim 252 Red Bucket Seats - Standard Interior 347 Ram Air................................... blank 351 THM tranny..............................236.97 361 STT HD Posi...............................63.19 37P Axle spcl order (3.90)....................n/c 453 Rally II......................................84.26 472 Console Automatic......................50.55 481 Dual Exh.....................................n/c 621 Ride Handle................................9.48 671 Underhood Lamp.........................3.16 692 HD ALT. 55 AMP........................15.80 702 Matching Spare Tire.....................n/c 71M-72C F70x14 RED WdOval..............n/c Option Total....................................463.41 Destination...................................... 62.00 Base price.....................................2781.00 Subtotal.......................................330 6.41 347 Ram Air1..................................631.12 (345-400= 273.83 + 347 Ram1 357.29 = 631.12) TOTAL ........................................3937.53 =================================== Label Price....................................3937.53 This one verifies again, the $15.00 increase in Ram1 option at later point in year. Original Ram1 option listed for $342.29, later it became $357.29. This is the second Bird, along with two GTO's that conform with this. Lacking option 754 Frt Shldr Belts on this Hardtop dated after Jan.68. Would have been n/c if listed. Could be one like I mentioned we might see with "shoulder belt delete". 
Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 11-01-2007 at 01:51 AM. |
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#7
11-01-2007, 12:51 AM
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Jim, in no way do I wish for this to upset you.
PLEASE do not be angry with me. I have been a Full Fledge Fan of yours since the mid 80's. You may personally know this Convertible, and it may in fact be a matching numbers Ram2 Bird. I'm just running numbers for interest, not implying any type Official origin or otherwise status of this Car. For what its worth, by the numbers. Sort of reminiscent of The Boss's Voodoo Green GTO Ram1 Auto Hdtp. 1968 Firebird Convertible Invoice 5/22/68 Paint R2 Solar Red / Black Top Trim 262 Parchment Buckets - Standard Interior 347 Ram Air..........................................blank 358 4 Sspd.........................................184.3 1 361 STT HD Posi...................................63.19 37P Axle spcl order (3.90).........................n/c 382 AM Radio/Frt Ant............................61.09 434 Tach Hood Mount...........................63.19 481 Dual Exh..........................................n/c 521 Disc Brk Frt...................................63.19 71M-72D F70 Wht WdOval........................n/c Option total (less RA).......................434.97 Destination......................................3 9.25 Base price....................................2996.00 Subtotal......................................3470 .22 Ram Air II....................................747.77 (conforms to bulletin dated 4/29/69) (345-400 = 273.83 + 347 Ram Air II 473.94 = 747.77) TOTAL........................................4217. 99 ($116.65 above Label of $4101.34) ================================= Label Price...................................4101.34 ----------------------------------------------------------- Subtotal.....................................3470. 22 Ram Air 1......................................631.12 (345-400 = 273.83 + Ram1 357.29 = 631.12) conforms to $15 increase in Ram1 option at later point in year. TOTAL.......................................4101.3 4 ================================ Label Price.................................4101.34 It "appears" this Convertible was a Ram1 machine (by the numbers/math). For what its worth. Possibly the third Fbird to conform with $15.00 increase in Ram1 at later points in year. Autumn Bronze II looks pretty cut and dry. I'll run it later just for pleasure. Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 11-01-2007 at 02:20 AM. |
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#8
11-01-2007, 01:35 AM
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1968 Firebird Ram Air II 4spd Hardtop
Invoice 7/10/68 Paint I I Autumn Bronze Trim 253 Black Buckets - Standard Interior 347 Ram Air........................................blank 358 4spd ...........................................184.31 361 STT HD Posi...................................63.19 37P Axle Spcl Ordr (3.90).........................n/c 382 AM Radio/ Frt Ant...........................61.09 434 Tach Hood Mount...........................63.19 481 Dual Exh.........................................n/c 621 RideHandle.....................................9.4 8 71M-72C F70 Rline WdOval.......................n/c 754 Frt Shldr Belts.................................n/c Option total (less Ram Air)...................381.26 Destination....................................... ..75.75 Base price.......................................2781.0 0 Subtotal.........................................3 238.01 Ram Air II.........................................747.77 (conforms to bulletin dated 4-29-69) TOTAL...........................................39 85.78 ==================================== Label Price......................................3985.78 |
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